▲ 976 ▼ Donald Trump cuts all US trade with Spain over Iran war dispute (www.jpost.com) submitted 5 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/world@lemmy.world 236 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone -8 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yeah it’s the voters you need to blame here. They or their lack of participation put them there. They can get them out too, now, if they want. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (3 children) "Blame the lambs being led to the slaughter, not the shepherds who gave them no choice." You're a truly enlightened genius who is contributing greatly to the cause. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 1 point 5 months ago You are not lamb without agency. You can change this if you actually wanted to. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Eh, I say blame both. They're sapient lambs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago That's reasonable. The voters bear some responsibility, but it needs to be acknowledged that the system is set up so they have as little power as possible while maintaining the illusion of democracy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) Every. Single. Time. It’s on the voters. Stop whining through another piece of philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) "Don't complain about your leaders. It's your fault." Is not the convincing argument you think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone -1 points 5 months ago The leaders the voters repeatedly put there It’s a lot better than blaming everything outside the genuine reason. Probably the reason it isn’t convincing to Americans is because they can’t take responsibility for it. Obviously it makes a difference; the Republican voters use it well enough. The people they elected are trying to stop potential Democrat voters from doing it. Just take some fucking responsibility. permalink fedilink source parent [–] derg@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) It is also the voters yes but they are being deceived by the propaganda machine, idk at a certain point maybe the guys and gals actively stripping human rights from people and grabbing power can take a little blame permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 point 5 months ago It’s the voters. Sooner or later responsibility needs to be taken and excuses stopped. No, the voters should take the blame for putting them there repeatedly. They won’t though…blame elsewhere, look elsewhere for a lifeline, do it all again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (3 children) "Blame the lambs being led to the slaughter, not the shepherds who gave them no choice." You're a truly enlightened genius who is contributing greatly to the cause. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 1 point 5 months ago You are not lamb without agency. You can change this if you actually wanted to. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Eh, I say blame both. They're sapient lambs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago That's reasonable. The voters bear some responsibility, but it needs to be acknowledged that the system is set up so they have as little power as possible while maintaining the illusion of democracy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) Every. Single. Time. It’s on the voters. Stop whining through another piece of philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) "Don't complain about your leaders. It's your fault." Is not the convincing argument you think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone -1 points 5 months ago The leaders the voters repeatedly put there It’s a lot better than blaming everything outside the genuine reason. Probably the reason it isn’t convincing to Americans is because they can’t take responsibility for it. Obviously it makes a difference; the Republican voters use it well enough. The people they elected are trying to stop potential Democrat voters from doing it. Just take some fucking responsibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 1 point 5 months ago You are not lamb without agency. You can change this if you actually wanted to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Eh, I say blame both. They're sapient lambs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago That's reasonable. The voters bear some responsibility, but it needs to be acknowledged that the system is set up so they have as little power as possible while maintaining the illusion of democracy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago That's reasonable. The voters bear some responsibility, but it needs to be acknowledged that the system is set up so they have as little power as possible while maintaining the illusion of democracy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) Every. Single. Time. It’s on the voters. Stop whining through another piece of philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) "Don't complain about your leaders. It's your fault." Is not the convincing argument you think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone -1 points 5 months ago The leaders the voters repeatedly put there It’s a lot better than blaming everything outside the genuine reason. Probably the reason it isn’t convincing to Americans is because they can’t take responsibility for it. Obviously it makes a difference; the Republican voters use it well enough. The people they elected are trying to stop potential Democrat voters from doing it. Just take some fucking responsibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) "Don't complain about your leaders. It's your fault." Is not the convincing argument you think it is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone -1 points 5 months ago The leaders the voters repeatedly put there It’s a lot better than blaming everything outside the genuine reason. Probably the reason it isn’t convincing to Americans is because they can’t take responsibility for it. Obviously it makes a difference; the Republican voters use it well enough. The people they elected are trying to stop potential Democrat voters from doing it. Just take some fucking responsibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone -1 points 5 months ago The leaders the voters repeatedly put there It’s a lot better than blaming everything outside the genuine reason. Probably the reason it isn’t convincing to Americans is because they can’t take responsibility for it. Obviously it makes a difference; the Republican voters use it well enough. The people they elected are trying to stop potential Democrat voters from doing it. Just take some fucking responsibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] derg@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) It is also the voters yes but they are being deceived by the propaganda machine, idk at a certain point maybe the guys and gals actively stripping human rights from people and grabbing power can take a little blame permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 point 5 months ago It’s the voters. Sooner or later responsibility needs to be taken and excuses stopped. No, the voters should take the blame for putting them there repeatedly. They won’t though…blame elsewhere, look elsewhere for a lifeline, do it all again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 point 5 months ago It’s the voters. Sooner or later responsibility needs to be taken and excuses stopped. No, the voters should take the blame for putting them there repeatedly. They won’t though…blame elsewhere, look elsewhere for a lifeline, do it all again. permalink fedilink source parent