▲ 73 ▼ Thoughts on Helium browser? (lemmy.ml) submitted 5 months ago by 64bithero@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 63 comments fedilink hide all child comments Not the biggest fan of Chromium based browsers. Thoughts on Helium ? https://helium.computer/
[–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago (2 children) Good browser, people who don't see need in a new chromium browser know nothing about today's industry lol permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago (3 children) As the person who made the (currently highest upvoted) comment about not needing a new Chromium browser, could you enlighten me on what I should know about "today's industry"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago Ooh, as a web developer, I can answer this. We (web developers) are, on average, incompetent. Many of our websites only work in Chromium based browsers, due to aforementioned incompetence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Answer me this, what chromium browser today is good?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Answer me this, what chromium browser today is good?? I don't use Chromium browsers because they're at the verge of becoming a monopoly, it's important to use alternatives for the foreseeable future to sustain what's left of diversity. It depends on your point of view, of the ones I've seen I'd guess Vivaldi has the best user features but it's closed source so there's double reason to not use it. It's what I'd use if I didn't care about any of this. But if you want my genuine browser recommendation from a Privacy perspective (since this is the privacy community) I suggest Mullvad Browser, it's Firefox based and has strong anti-fingerprinting and privacy defaults - it does break some sites though and is missing some QoL features but that's the price you pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah different perspective, i don't see any need in using alternatives to chromium tho, firefox works with google, so this fight with the monopolist is just ridiculous for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I would say don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, if you have a problem with Mozilla as an organisation it doesn't negate the valid concerns about the monopoly, it would effectively hand control of web standards over to Google defeating the entire ethos of the open web. The Firefox browser engine is independent even if you don't believe the organisation behind it is, that can be verified because of open source, there's no need to be defeatist yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago Maybe, but i still doesn't like firefox that much.. Firefox has a bug where my vpn extension can't connect after relaunching the browser, and it's like every vpn i used, they don't fix it permalink fedilink source parent [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I love ff but competition is always good permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Can't tell if you're joking but the problem is serious lack of competition for Chromium browsers. Every Chromium browser brings nothing meaningfully new but just strengthens Google's monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) I meant in the way that chrome is good competition for ff. Not necessarily that we Need even more chromium browsers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago Oh yes, it would be even worse if we only had one browser engine. We need more browser engines is the point, not more tweaked Chromium browsers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) You've got that backwards bub. Firefox is the competition. Chrome has like 65% of the market share. Chrome is the browser to compete against, not Firefox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Even if Chrome is the dominant Browser it is still competition, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) yeah, "competition", firefox sends data to google and google pays firefox for google search to be main search in the browser out of the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago I'll take Missing the Point for 100, Alex. permalink fedilink source parent [–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, we don't need more chromium browsers but fewer. I will never use that garbage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago Okay ig? I hate firefox so i don't use it, but i love chromium so i want more normal browsers on chromium permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago (3 children) As the person who made the (currently highest upvoted) comment about not needing a new Chromium browser, could you enlighten me on what I should know about "today's industry"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago Ooh, as a web developer, I can answer this. We (web developers) are, on average, incompetent. Many of our websites only work in Chromium based browsers, due to aforementioned incompetence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Answer me this, what chromium browser today is good?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Answer me this, what chromium browser today is good?? I don't use Chromium browsers because they're at the verge of becoming a monopoly, it's important to use alternatives for the foreseeable future to sustain what's left of diversity. It depends on your point of view, of the ones I've seen I'd guess Vivaldi has the best user features but it's closed source so there's double reason to not use it. It's what I'd use if I didn't care about any of this. But if you want my genuine browser recommendation from a Privacy perspective (since this is the privacy community) I suggest Mullvad Browser, it's Firefox based and has strong anti-fingerprinting and privacy defaults - it does break some sites though and is missing some QoL features but that's the price you pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah different perspective, i don't see any need in using alternatives to chromium tho, firefox works with google, so this fight with the monopolist is just ridiculous for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I would say don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, if you have a problem with Mozilla as an organisation it doesn't negate the valid concerns about the monopoly, it would effectively hand control of web standards over to Google defeating the entire ethos of the open web. The Firefox browser engine is independent even if you don't believe the organisation behind it is, that can be verified because of open source, there's no need to be defeatist yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago Maybe, but i still doesn't like firefox that much.. Firefox has a bug where my vpn extension can't connect after relaunching the browser, and it's like every vpn i used, they don't fix it permalink fedilink source parent [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I love ff but competition is always good permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Can't tell if you're joking but the problem is serious lack of competition for Chromium browsers. Every Chromium browser brings nothing meaningfully new but just strengthens Google's monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) I meant in the way that chrome is good competition for ff. Not necessarily that we Need even more chromium browsers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago Oh yes, it would be even worse if we only had one browser engine. We need more browser engines is the point, not more tweaked Chromium browsers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) You've got that backwards bub. Firefox is the competition. Chrome has like 65% of the market share. Chrome is the browser to compete against, not Firefox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Even if Chrome is the dominant Browser it is still competition, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) yeah, "competition", firefox sends data to google and google pays firefox for google search to be main search in the browser out of the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago I'll take Missing the Point for 100, Alex. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago Ooh, as a web developer, I can answer this. We (web developers) are, on average, incompetent. Many of our websites only work in Chromium based browsers, due to aforementioned incompetence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Answer me this, what chromium browser today is good?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Answer me this, what chromium browser today is good?? I don't use Chromium browsers because they're at the verge of becoming a monopoly, it's important to use alternatives for the foreseeable future to sustain what's left of diversity. It depends on your point of view, of the ones I've seen I'd guess Vivaldi has the best user features but it's closed source so there's double reason to not use it. It's what I'd use if I didn't care about any of this. But if you want my genuine browser recommendation from a Privacy perspective (since this is the privacy community) I suggest Mullvad Browser, it's Firefox based and has strong anti-fingerprinting and privacy defaults - it does break some sites though and is missing some QoL features but that's the price you pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah different perspective, i don't see any need in using alternatives to chromium tho, firefox works with google, so this fight with the monopolist is just ridiculous for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I would say don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, if you have a problem with Mozilla as an organisation it doesn't negate the valid concerns about the monopoly, it would effectively hand control of web standards over to Google defeating the entire ethos of the open web. The Firefox browser engine is independent even if you don't believe the organisation behind it is, that can be verified because of open source, there's no need to be defeatist yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago Maybe, but i still doesn't like firefox that much.. Firefox has a bug where my vpn extension can't connect after relaunching the browser, and it's like every vpn i used, they don't fix it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Answer me this, what chromium browser today is good?? I don't use Chromium browsers because they're at the verge of becoming a monopoly, it's important to use alternatives for the foreseeable future to sustain what's left of diversity. It depends on your point of view, of the ones I've seen I'd guess Vivaldi has the best user features but it's closed source so there's double reason to not use it. It's what I'd use if I didn't care about any of this. But if you want my genuine browser recommendation from a Privacy perspective (since this is the privacy community) I suggest Mullvad Browser, it's Firefox based and has strong anti-fingerprinting and privacy defaults - it does break some sites though and is missing some QoL features but that's the price you pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah different perspective, i don't see any need in using alternatives to chromium tho, firefox works with google, so this fight with the monopolist is just ridiculous for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I would say don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, if you have a problem with Mozilla as an organisation it doesn't negate the valid concerns about the monopoly, it would effectively hand control of web standards over to Google defeating the entire ethos of the open web. The Firefox browser engine is independent even if you don't believe the organisation behind it is, that can be verified because of open source, there's no need to be defeatist yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago Maybe, but i still doesn't like firefox that much.. Firefox has a bug where my vpn extension can't connect after relaunching the browser, and it's like every vpn i used, they don't fix it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Yeah different perspective, i don't see any need in using alternatives to chromium tho, firefox works with google, so this fight with the monopolist is just ridiculous for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I would say don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, if you have a problem with Mozilla as an organisation it doesn't negate the valid concerns about the monopoly, it would effectively hand control of web standards over to Google defeating the entire ethos of the open web. The Firefox browser engine is independent even if you don't believe the organisation behind it is, that can be verified because of open source, there's no need to be defeatist yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago Maybe, but i still doesn't like firefox that much.. Firefox has a bug where my vpn extension can't connect after relaunching the browser, and it's like every vpn i used, they don't fix it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I would say don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, if you have a problem with Mozilla as an organisation it doesn't negate the valid concerns about the monopoly, it would effectively hand control of web standards over to Google defeating the entire ethos of the open web. The Firefox browser engine is independent even if you don't believe the organisation behind it is, that can be verified because of open source, there's no need to be defeatist yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago Maybe, but i still doesn't like firefox that much.. Firefox has a bug where my vpn extension can't connect after relaunching the browser, and it's like every vpn i used, they don't fix it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 1 point 5 months ago Maybe, but i still doesn't like firefox that much.. Firefox has a bug where my vpn extension can't connect after relaunching the browser, and it's like every vpn i used, they don't fix it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I love ff but competition is always good permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Can't tell if you're joking but the problem is serious lack of competition for Chromium browsers. Every Chromium browser brings nothing meaningfully new but just strengthens Google's monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) I meant in the way that chrome is good competition for ff. Not necessarily that we Need even more chromium browsers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago Oh yes, it would be even worse if we only had one browser engine. We need more browser engines is the point, not more tweaked Chromium browsers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) You've got that backwards bub. Firefox is the competition. Chrome has like 65% of the market share. Chrome is the browser to compete against, not Firefox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Even if Chrome is the dominant Browser it is still competition, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) yeah, "competition", firefox sends data to google and google pays firefox for google search to be main search in the browser out of the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago I'll take Missing the Point for 100, Alex. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Can't tell if you're joking but the problem is serious lack of competition for Chromium browsers. Every Chromium browser brings nothing meaningfully new but just strengthens Google's monopoly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) I meant in the way that chrome is good competition for ff. Not necessarily that we Need even more chromium browsers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago Oh yes, it would be even worse if we only had one browser engine. We need more browser engines is the point, not more tweaked Chromium browsers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) You've got that backwards bub. Firefox is the competition. Chrome has like 65% of the market share. Chrome is the browser to compete against, not Firefox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Even if Chrome is the dominant Browser it is still competition, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) yeah, "competition", firefox sends data to google and google pays firefox for google search to be main search in the browser out of the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago I'll take Missing the Point for 100, Alex. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) I meant in the way that chrome is good competition for ff. Not necessarily that we Need even more chromium browsers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago Oh yes, it would be even worse if we only had one browser engine. We need more browser engines is the point, not more tweaked Chromium browsers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) You've got that backwards bub. Firefox is the competition. Chrome has like 65% of the market share. Chrome is the browser to compete against, not Firefox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Even if Chrome is the dominant Browser it is still competition, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) yeah, "competition", firefox sends data to google and google pays firefox for google search to be main search in the browser out of the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago I'll take Missing the Point for 100, Alex. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago Oh yes, it would be even worse if we only had one browser engine. We need more browser engines is the point, not more tweaked Chromium browsers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) You've got that backwards bub. Firefox is the competition. Chrome has like 65% of the market share. Chrome is the browser to compete against, not Firefox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Even if Chrome is the dominant Browser it is still competition, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago No. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) yeah, "competition", firefox sends data to google and google pays firefox for google search to be main search in the browser out of the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago I'll take Missing the Point for 100, Alex. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orochi02@feddit.org 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) Even if Chrome is the dominant Browser it is still competition, no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago No. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Georgvwt@europe.pub -1 points 5 months ago (1 child) yeah, "competition", firefox sends data to google and google pays firefox for google search to be main search in the browser out of the box permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago I'll take Missing the Point for 100, Alex. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago I'll take Missing the Point for 100, Alex. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) No, we don't need more chromium browsers but fewer. I will never use that garbage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago Okay ig? I hate firefox so i don't use it, but i love chromium so i want more normal browsers on chromium permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Georgvwt@europe.pub 0 points 5 months ago Okay ig? I hate firefox so i don't use it, but i love chromium so i want more normal browsers on chromium permalink fedilink source parent
