▲ 525 ▼ GrapheneOS can help you retake your privacy, right now. - Veronica Explains (peertube.wtf) submitted 5 months ago by meldrik@lemmy.wtf to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 117 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 77 points 5 months ago (2 children) Bring on support for more devices, and I'll likely switch with my next phone. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 36 points 5 months ago (1 child) They're working on an alternative device with a large OEM they've not disclosed yet. They're aiming at releasing it in 2027. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 months ago (1 child) The smart money is they're going to go with Motorola, honestly idc who they go with it'll likely be my next phone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bourrelier@jlai.lu 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) Same here, i can't wait to ditch my old xiaomi 10 full of bloatwares and ads permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I've got the pixel 8 with graphene on it, it's very nice but I also have a soft spot for emulation and the Tensor devices are trash for anything higher than GameCube tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago* I wouldn't hold out an the GrapheneOS phone being any better. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not expecting top tier specs. I'm betting low specs with a high price. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) If you don't like the bloatware... unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom! Luckily Xiaomi allows you to unlock the bootloader if you have a global variant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Xiaomi discontinued their blootloader unlocking service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) sorry for the very late response (it's better late than never, isn't it?), but Xiaomi has its bootloader unlocking service active. I used it last year to unlock my phone. Here you can get the official mi unlock program (it works on hyperos): https://en.miui.com/unlock/index.html And here is a guide to unlock the bootloader: https://miuirom.org/updates/xiaomi-bootloader (don't do the usb debugging part, I don't know if it is necessary on older devices but on every xiaomi device that I had you don't need to enable usb debugging so mi unlock can communicate with fastboot) edit: spacing. edit 2: please don't do the bootloader lock via direct fastboot command as stated in the guide, I strongly recommend that you do a clean flash of stock rom with mi flash tool, if you plan to lock the bootloader later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago Noted, thanks permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas@lem.ugh.im 23 points 5 months ago (3 children) Its not up to grapheneos devs which devices support bootloader relocking with different keys, literally only pixels allow this and without it you cant properly secure the phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 36 points 5 months ago (3 children) ..without it you cant properly secure the phone. My understanding is that a locked bootloader helps protect against evil maid attacks and bootloader-level malware persistence. I find this a security risk that I would absolutely take for Google independence. "Properly secure" is subjective. GrapheneOS do decide what phones they support. It is exactly their choice to support only Google Pixels, rather than taking a security hit for hardware independence (whether you agree with the decision or not). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) Exactly, seems like this should be up to the consumer. The devs can say: pixels have best security, here's a 2nd and 3rd option, here's their pros and cons. Because as much as I approve of privacy measures and security, my phone doesn't have any lock screen. No pin, no biometrics, nothing. I work from home, I don't really travel, I have 4 children. Physical security is annoying. I want grapheneos for data security. I don't have people trying to steal my phone, I do have people constantly stealing my data. And without a non-pixel option (fuck google), I'm likely to go for to a competitor because, while their data security might not be as good as graphene, it is better than what I currently have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago I think the bigger issue is that supporting more devices can add a ton of extra work to the dev team, which is small. That could sacrifice the integrity of the whole project. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dave@lemmy.nz 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) GrapeneOS have a specific goal related to security. You can install one of the others, like LineageOS, if you are happy with the tradeoff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago and the tradeoff includes dozens more permissions related features that don't rely on hardware security features permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca -5 points 5 months ago (2 children) No other phone supports the relocking bootloader and that is there requirement. There is no other phone they can support. You might not like their requirements but they are pretty clear about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago which is not true, as fairphones also support relocking. Besides, graphene has dozens of other very useful features that don't rely on hardware security features or the ability to relock. and I guarantee you, if another android rom adopted their unique features, they would be loudly complaining that they are stealing code (from an open source project...) permalink fedilink source parent [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago Some Qualcomm phones support relocking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago not true, fairphones support that too. calyxos makes use of it, it's proven to be working permalink fedilink source parent [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago* No OP, but... Well, unfortunately, we're at an impasse, then. :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 36 points 5 months ago (1 child) They're working on an alternative device with a large OEM they've not disclosed yet. They're aiming at releasing it in 2027. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 months ago (1 child) The smart money is they're going to go with Motorola, honestly idc who they go with it'll likely be my next phone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bourrelier@jlai.lu 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) Same here, i can't wait to ditch my old xiaomi 10 full of bloatwares and ads permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I've got the pixel 8 with graphene on it, it's very nice but I also have a soft spot for emulation and the Tensor devices are trash for anything higher than GameCube tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago* I wouldn't hold out an the GrapheneOS phone being any better. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not expecting top tier specs. I'm betting low specs with a high price. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) If you don't like the bloatware... unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom! Luckily Xiaomi allows you to unlock the bootloader if you have a global variant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Xiaomi discontinued their blootloader unlocking service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) sorry for the very late response (it's better late than never, isn't it?), but Xiaomi has its bootloader unlocking service active. I used it last year to unlock my phone. Here you can get the official mi unlock program (it works on hyperos): https://en.miui.com/unlock/index.html And here is a guide to unlock the bootloader: https://miuirom.org/updates/xiaomi-bootloader (don't do the usb debugging part, I don't know if it is necessary on older devices but on every xiaomi device that I had you don't need to enable usb debugging so mi unlock can communicate with fastboot) edit: spacing. edit 2: please don't do the bootloader lock via direct fastboot command as stated in the guide, I strongly recommend that you do a clean flash of stock rom with mi flash tool, if you plan to lock the bootloader later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago Noted, thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 18 points 5 months ago (1 child) The smart money is they're going to go with Motorola, honestly idc who they go with it'll likely be my next phone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bourrelier@jlai.lu 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) Same here, i can't wait to ditch my old xiaomi 10 full of bloatwares and ads permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I've got the pixel 8 with graphene on it, it's very nice but I also have a soft spot for emulation and the Tensor devices are trash for anything higher than GameCube tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago* I wouldn't hold out an the GrapheneOS phone being any better. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not expecting top tier specs. I'm betting low specs with a high price. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) If you don't like the bloatware... unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom! Luckily Xiaomi allows you to unlock the bootloader if you have a global variant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Xiaomi discontinued their blootloader unlocking service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) sorry for the very late response (it's better late than never, isn't it?), but Xiaomi has its bootloader unlocking service active. I used it last year to unlock my phone. Here you can get the official mi unlock program (it works on hyperos): https://en.miui.com/unlock/index.html And here is a guide to unlock the bootloader: https://miuirom.org/updates/xiaomi-bootloader (don't do the usb debugging part, I don't know if it is necessary on older devices but on every xiaomi device that I had you don't need to enable usb debugging so mi unlock can communicate with fastboot) edit: spacing. edit 2: please don't do the bootloader lock via direct fastboot command as stated in the guide, I strongly recommend that you do a clean flash of stock rom with mi flash tool, if you plan to lock the bootloader later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago Noted, thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bourrelier@jlai.lu 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) Same here, i can't wait to ditch my old xiaomi 10 full of bloatwares and ads permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I've got the pixel 8 with graphene on it, it's very nice but I also have a soft spot for emulation and the Tensor devices are trash for anything higher than GameCube tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago* I wouldn't hold out an the GrapheneOS phone being any better. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not expecting top tier specs. I'm betting low specs with a high price. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) If you don't like the bloatware... unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom! Luckily Xiaomi allows you to unlock the bootloader if you have a global variant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Xiaomi discontinued their blootloader unlocking service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) sorry for the very late response (it's better late than never, isn't it?), but Xiaomi has its bootloader unlocking service active. I used it last year to unlock my phone. Here you can get the official mi unlock program (it works on hyperos): https://en.miui.com/unlock/index.html And here is a guide to unlock the bootloader: https://miuirom.org/updates/xiaomi-bootloader (don't do the usb debugging part, I don't know if it is necessary on older devices but on every xiaomi device that I had you don't need to enable usb debugging so mi unlock can communicate with fastboot) edit: spacing. edit 2: please don't do the bootloader lock via direct fastboot command as stated in the guide, I strongly recommend that you do a clean flash of stock rom with mi flash tool, if you plan to lock the bootloader later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago Noted, thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I've got the pixel 8 with graphene on it, it's very nice but I also have a soft spot for emulation and the Tensor devices are trash for anything higher than GameCube tbh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago* I wouldn't hold out an the GrapheneOS phone being any better. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not expecting top tier specs. I'm betting low specs with a high price. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago* I wouldn't hold out an the GrapheneOS phone being any better. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not expecting top tier specs. I'm betting low specs with a high price. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) If you don't like the bloatware... unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom! Luckily Xiaomi allows you to unlock the bootloader if you have a global variant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Xiaomi discontinued their blootloader unlocking service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) sorry for the very late response (it's better late than never, isn't it?), but Xiaomi has its bootloader unlocking service active. I used it last year to unlock my phone. Here you can get the official mi unlock program (it works on hyperos): https://en.miui.com/unlock/index.html And here is a guide to unlock the bootloader: https://miuirom.org/updates/xiaomi-bootloader (don't do the usb debugging part, I don't know if it is necessary on older devices but on every xiaomi device that I had you don't need to enable usb debugging so mi unlock can communicate with fastboot) edit: spacing. edit 2: please don't do the bootloader lock via direct fastboot command as stated in the guide, I strongly recommend that you do a clean flash of stock rom with mi flash tool, if you plan to lock the bootloader later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago Noted, thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Xiaomi discontinued their blootloader unlocking service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) sorry for the very late response (it's better late than never, isn't it?), but Xiaomi has its bootloader unlocking service active. I used it last year to unlock my phone. Here you can get the official mi unlock program (it works on hyperos): https://en.miui.com/unlock/index.html And here is a guide to unlock the bootloader: https://miuirom.org/updates/xiaomi-bootloader (don't do the usb debugging part, I don't know if it is necessary on older devices but on every xiaomi device that I had you don't need to enable usb debugging so mi unlock can communicate with fastboot) edit: spacing. edit 2: please don't do the bootloader lock via direct fastboot command as stated in the guide, I strongly recommend that you do a clean flash of stock rom with mi flash tool, if you plan to lock the bootloader later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago Noted, thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) sorry for the very late response (it's better late than never, isn't it?), but Xiaomi has its bootloader unlocking service active. I used it last year to unlock my phone. Here you can get the official mi unlock program (it works on hyperos): https://en.miui.com/unlock/index.html And here is a guide to unlock the bootloader: https://miuirom.org/updates/xiaomi-bootloader (don't do the usb debugging part, I don't know if it is necessary on older devices but on every xiaomi device that I had you don't need to enable usb debugging so mi unlock can communicate with fastboot) edit: spacing. edit 2: please don't do the bootloader lock via direct fastboot command as stated in the guide, I strongly recommend that you do a clean flash of stock rom with mi flash tool, if you plan to lock the bootloader later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago Noted, thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gravitas@lem.ugh.im 23 points 5 months ago (3 children) Its not up to grapheneos devs which devices support bootloader relocking with different keys, literally only pixels allow this and without it you cant properly secure the phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 36 points 5 months ago (3 children) ..without it you cant properly secure the phone. My understanding is that a locked bootloader helps protect against evil maid attacks and bootloader-level malware persistence. I find this a security risk that I would absolutely take for Google independence. "Properly secure" is subjective. GrapheneOS do decide what phones they support. It is exactly their choice to support only Google Pixels, rather than taking a security hit for hardware independence (whether you agree with the decision or not). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) Exactly, seems like this should be up to the consumer. The devs can say: pixels have best security, here's a 2nd and 3rd option, here's their pros and cons. Because as much as I approve of privacy measures and security, my phone doesn't have any lock screen. No pin, no biometrics, nothing. I work from home, I don't really travel, I have 4 children. Physical security is annoying. I want grapheneos for data security. I don't have people trying to steal my phone, I do have people constantly stealing my data. And without a non-pixel option (fuck google), I'm likely to go for to a competitor because, while their data security might not be as good as graphene, it is better than what I currently have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago I think the bigger issue is that supporting more devices can add a ton of extra work to the dev team, which is small. That could sacrifice the integrity of the whole project. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dave@lemmy.nz 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) GrapeneOS have a specific goal related to security. You can install one of the others, like LineageOS, if you are happy with the tradeoff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago and the tradeoff includes dozens more permissions related features that don't rely on hardware security features permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca -5 points 5 months ago (2 children) No other phone supports the relocking bootloader and that is there requirement. There is no other phone they can support. You might not like their requirements but they are pretty clear about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago which is not true, as fairphones also support relocking. Besides, graphene has dozens of other very useful features that don't rely on hardware security features or the ability to relock. and I guarantee you, if another android rom adopted their unique features, they would be loudly complaining that they are stealing code (from an open source project...) permalink fedilink source parent [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago Some Qualcomm phones support relocking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago not true, fairphones support that too. calyxos makes use of it, it's proven to be working permalink fedilink source parent [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago* No OP, but... Well, unfortunately, we're at an impasse, then. :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 36 points 5 months ago (3 children) ..without it you cant properly secure the phone. My understanding is that a locked bootloader helps protect against evil maid attacks and bootloader-level malware persistence. I find this a security risk that I would absolutely take for Google independence. "Properly secure" is subjective. GrapheneOS do decide what phones they support. It is exactly their choice to support only Google Pixels, rather than taking a security hit for hardware independence (whether you agree with the decision or not). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) Exactly, seems like this should be up to the consumer. The devs can say: pixels have best security, here's a 2nd and 3rd option, here's their pros and cons. Because as much as I approve of privacy measures and security, my phone doesn't have any lock screen. No pin, no biometrics, nothing. I work from home, I don't really travel, I have 4 children. Physical security is annoying. I want grapheneos for data security. I don't have people trying to steal my phone, I do have people constantly stealing my data. And without a non-pixel option (fuck google), I'm likely to go for to a competitor because, while their data security might not be as good as graphene, it is better than what I currently have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago I think the bigger issue is that supporting more devices can add a ton of extra work to the dev team, which is small. That could sacrifice the integrity of the whole project. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dave@lemmy.nz 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) GrapeneOS have a specific goal related to security. You can install one of the others, like LineageOS, if you are happy with the tradeoff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago and the tradeoff includes dozens more permissions related features that don't rely on hardware security features permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca -5 points 5 months ago (2 children) No other phone supports the relocking bootloader and that is there requirement. There is no other phone they can support. You might not like their requirements but they are pretty clear about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago which is not true, as fairphones also support relocking. Besides, graphene has dozens of other very useful features that don't rely on hardware security features or the ability to relock. and I guarantee you, if another android rom adopted their unique features, they would be loudly complaining that they are stealing code (from an open source project...) permalink fedilink source parent [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago Some Qualcomm phones support relocking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yaroto98@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) Exactly, seems like this should be up to the consumer. The devs can say: pixels have best security, here's a 2nd and 3rd option, here's their pros and cons. Because as much as I approve of privacy measures and security, my phone doesn't have any lock screen. No pin, no biometrics, nothing. I work from home, I don't really travel, I have 4 children. Physical security is annoying. I want grapheneos for data security. I don't have people trying to steal my phone, I do have people constantly stealing my data. And without a non-pixel option (fuck google), I'm likely to go for to a competitor because, while their data security might not be as good as graphene, it is better than what I currently have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago I think the bigger issue is that supporting more devices can add a ton of extra work to the dev team, which is small. That could sacrifice the integrity of the whole project. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago I think the bigger issue is that supporting more devices can add a ton of extra work to the dev team, which is small. That could sacrifice the integrity of the whole project. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) GrapeneOS have a specific goal related to security. You can install one of the others, like LineageOS, if you are happy with the tradeoff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago and the tradeoff includes dozens more permissions related features that don't rely on hardware security features permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago and the tradeoff includes dozens more permissions related features that don't rely on hardware security features permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca -5 points 5 months ago (2 children) No other phone supports the relocking bootloader and that is there requirement. There is no other phone they can support. You might not like their requirements but they are pretty clear about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago which is not true, as fairphones also support relocking. Besides, graphene has dozens of other very useful features that don't rely on hardware security features or the ability to relock. and I guarantee you, if another android rom adopted their unique features, they would be loudly complaining that they are stealing code (from an open source project...) permalink fedilink source parent [–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago Some Qualcomm phones support relocking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago which is not true, as fairphones also support relocking. Besides, graphene has dozens of other very useful features that don't rely on hardware security features or the ability to relock. and I guarantee you, if another android rom adopted their unique features, they would be loudly complaining that they are stealing code (from an open source project...) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 point 5 months ago Some Qualcomm phones support relocking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago not true, fairphones support that too. calyxos makes use of it, it's proven to be working permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago* No OP, but... Well, unfortunately, we're at an impasse, then. :( permalink fedilink source parent