▲ 430 ▼ Ice Out _ by Laika in front of the Italian Olympic Committee (infosec.pub) submitted 5 months ago by CubitOom@infosec.pub to c/pics@lemmy.world 14 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source
[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 33 points 5 months ago (3 children) So did they wind up getting permitted in the country by Italian authorities? I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one... permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] iammike@programming.dev 30 points 5 months ago (2 children) Because the italian PM is BFF with the orange guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 months ago and with Elon il catzo e botchatta permalink fedilink source parent [–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 5 points 5 months ago Ah, shit... permalink fedilink source parent [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) In 1992, Meloni joined the Youth Front, the youth wing of the Italian Social Movement (MSI), a neo-fascist political party founded in 1946 by followers of Italian fascism. She later became the national leader of Student Action, the student movement of the National Alliance (AN), a post-fascist party that became the MSI's legal successor in 1995 and moved towards national conservatism. Giorgia Meloni is an Italian politician who has served as Prime Minister of Italy since October 2022. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgia_Meloni permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 6 points 5 months ago (2 children) Do you mean ICE ? If I understand correctly the special section of ICE that is in Italy is there only to protect idiots like JD Vance etc. They are absolutely not there for any immigration related issues or law enforcement. And the Italian authorities said as such making very clear that their agents don't have any jurisdiction there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago But arent there other Federal agencies that can provide security, like the Secret Service? Having ICE involved in this thing that is so far out of its mission kind of proves the point that ICE is really Trump's private army, doesn't it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) Why would ICE be doing executive protection when they can barely do the extremely limited job that they exist for and we have multiple agencies that are already equipped and trained to actually do that job? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's because the people who run ICE won't ask silly questions like "Is this job within the scope of my department's mission?" Or "Are there other agencies that are better equipped to do this". Or even "Is what Donald Trump asking me us to do legal?". They just do what the Boss says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Sure, but if I was the boss I would want the elite highly trained experts protecting me, not the guys I hired without screening or training to rough up the peasants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago For fascists, loyalty >>>>>>> competence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago You, sir, are intelligent. These guys are not. The only want people who will never tell them "no". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago* I'm sure ICE is only support for the secret services. It's not replacing that. With the global anti-Americanism (and honestly well deserved) I suppose they needed a bunch of grunts in case their political figures visiting in Italy gets attacked by an angry crowd. Secret services are not meant to handle large crowds (nor ICE to be fair). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iammike@programming.dev 30 points 5 months ago (2 children) Because the italian PM is BFF with the orange guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 months ago and with Elon il catzo e botchatta permalink fedilink source parent [–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 5 points 5 months ago Ah, shit... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 months ago and with Elon il catzo e botchatta permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago (1 child) In 1992, Meloni joined the Youth Front, the youth wing of the Italian Social Movement (MSI), a neo-fascist political party founded in 1946 by followers of Italian fascism. She later became the national leader of Student Action, the student movement of the National Alliance (AN), a post-fascist party that became the MSI's legal successor in 1995 and moved towards national conservatism. Giorgia Meloni is an Italian politician who has served as Prime Minister of Italy since October 2022. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgia_Meloni permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 6 points 5 months ago (2 children) Do you mean ICE ? If I understand correctly the special section of ICE that is in Italy is there only to protect idiots like JD Vance etc. They are absolutely not there for any immigration related issues or law enforcement. And the Italian authorities said as such making very clear that their agents don't have any jurisdiction there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago But arent there other Federal agencies that can provide security, like the Secret Service? Having ICE involved in this thing that is so far out of its mission kind of proves the point that ICE is really Trump's private army, doesn't it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) Why would ICE be doing executive protection when they can barely do the extremely limited job that they exist for and we have multiple agencies that are already equipped and trained to actually do that job? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's because the people who run ICE won't ask silly questions like "Is this job within the scope of my department's mission?" Or "Are there other agencies that are better equipped to do this". Or even "Is what Donald Trump asking me us to do legal?". They just do what the Boss says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Sure, but if I was the boss I would want the elite highly trained experts protecting me, not the guys I hired without screening or training to rough up the peasants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago For fascists, loyalty >>>>>>> competence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago You, sir, are intelligent. These guys are not. The only want people who will never tell them "no". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago* I'm sure ICE is only support for the secret services. It's not replacing that. With the global anti-Americanism (and honestly well deserved) I suppose they needed a bunch of grunts in case their political figures visiting in Italy gets attacked by an angry crowd. Secret services are not meant to handle large crowds (nor ICE to be fair). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago But arent there other Federal agencies that can provide security, like the Secret Service? Having ICE involved in this thing that is so far out of its mission kind of proves the point that ICE is really Trump's private army, doesn't it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) Why would ICE be doing executive protection when they can barely do the extremely limited job that they exist for and we have multiple agencies that are already equipped and trained to actually do that job? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's because the people who run ICE won't ask silly questions like "Is this job within the scope of my department's mission?" Or "Are there other agencies that are better equipped to do this". Or even "Is what Donald Trump asking me us to do legal?". They just do what the Boss says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Sure, but if I was the boss I would want the elite highly trained experts protecting me, not the guys I hired without screening or training to rough up the peasants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago For fascists, loyalty >>>>>>> competence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago You, sir, are intelligent. These guys are not. The only want people who will never tell them "no". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago* I'm sure ICE is only support for the secret services. It's not replacing that. With the global anti-Americanism (and honestly well deserved) I suppose they needed a bunch of grunts in case their political figures visiting in Italy gets attacked by an angry crowd. Secret services are not meant to handle large crowds (nor ICE to be fair). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's because the people who run ICE won't ask silly questions like "Is this job within the scope of my department's mission?" Or "Are there other agencies that are better equipped to do this". Or even "Is what Donald Trump asking me us to do legal?". They just do what the Boss says. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Sure, but if I was the boss I would want the elite highly trained experts protecting me, not the guys I hired without screening or training to rough up the peasants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago For fascists, loyalty >>>>>>> competence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago You, sir, are intelligent. These guys are not. The only want people who will never tell them "no". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago* I'm sure ICE is only support for the secret services. It's not replacing that. With the global anti-Americanism (and honestly well deserved) I suppose they needed a bunch of grunts in case their political figures visiting in Italy gets attacked by an angry crowd. Secret services are not meant to handle large crowds (nor ICE to be fair). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Sure, but if I was the boss I would want the elite highly trained experts protecting me, not the guys I hired without screening or training to rough up the peasants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago For fascists, loyalty >>>>>>> competence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago You, sir, are intelligent. These guys are not. The only want people who will never tell them "no". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago* I'm sure ICE is only support for the secret services. It's not replacing that. With the global anti-Americanism (and honestly well deserved) I suppose they needed a bunch of grunts in case their political figures visiting in Italy gets attacked by an angry crowd. Secret services are not meant to handle large crowds (nor ICE to be fair). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago For fascists, loyalty >>>>>>> competence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago You, sir, are intelligent. These guys are not. The only want people who will never tell them "no". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago* I'm sure ICE is only support for the secret services. It's not replacing that. With the global anti-Americanism (and honestly well deserved) I suppose they needed a bunch of grunts in case their political figures visiting in Italy gets attacked by an angry crowd. Secret services are not meant to handle large crowds (nor ICE to be fair). permalink fedilink source parent
