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[–] 29 points 6 months ago (1 child)

These appliances would cost similar to 60 years ago? You’ll be spending 2-3 months salary on a washing machine or television. We got used to cheap and poor quality - poor repairability devices in the consumer economy.

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, the bummer is that you can pay that much for appliances, but you are paying for extra features, NOT for extra durability and repairability. They simply don't make them like that anymore.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Linus and Luke from LTT were talking about this the other day, how you can spend like 20-30 grand on a sub-zero or some other fancy brand fridge, and it will last 50 years like appliances used to. But when you sell your house eventually it will add NO value, the buyer is just going to see "great, the house comes with a fridge like it's supposed to". So unless you plan to take the fridge with you from house to house and go through the trouble of replacing it with something normal when you do then the economics just don't work for most people anymore.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I live in a city below sea level and almost every house has foundation issues. At one point I was living in a house that was over 120 years old. It had been through a fire, had no central support beam, and every time the roof had previously been repaired, instead of removing the old one, a new one was just slapped on top, so there were 3 total roofs. It was kind of a miracle (and probably only because of old style lattice work in the frame) that it never collapsed. Anyway, the foundation in that house was beyond fucked to say the least.

    Almost the whole time we lived there we kept having problems with our washer over and over. Our landlord would hire a repairman to fix it, they were never quite sure what was wrong, but they would fiddle around with it until they got it working, then a week later it would just stop working again. Eventually our landlord got so fed up they just got rid of the washer and dryer and bought a brand new really fancy stackable washer and dryer set. They were so pissed when not even a week later we started having the same issue.

    Eventually we got a repairman out who figured out the problem. The laundry room was an addition that had been a back porch at one point in history so it was even more janky than the rest of the house. The foundation in that room had become so fucked, it was throwing off the sensors all newer washers have. The landlord had to sell the almost brand new washer, and then go out and find a 20+ year old washer to place next to our fancy dryer.

    Anyway, the point is, I could see the value in vintage appliances being included in houses where the age of the home itself may interfere with newer technology.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    oh shit this is FASCINATING. i'm glad you had a landlord that at least dealt with the problem instead of blaming you after the first couple times.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, I don't think not having a fridge is that big of a deal. If someone actually wants the house they will haggle you down for the cost of a fridge and I would be totally fine with that. Hey, I could have bought a $900 fridge and put it in here, I will give you $900 out of the sell. If you don't want a $900 fridge you can take that money and put it to the fridge you do want.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Even then you'd be dealing with the hassle of moving a heavy, expensive appliance to a new home.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I listened to that segment. If you're in a position to do so, it makes sense to buy for life and not have to deal with break downs/ ewaste imo. That's a privileged position to be in though

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    How often are you planning on selling a house though? Don't you plan to live in it forever?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I think it depends, but most people don't buy a house planning to live in it forever anymore. More likely you upgrade from renting to owning a small apartment or condo, then you move into a starter home, maybe you get married and sell your home because your partner has a home, and then you decide to have kids and the starter home isn't really big enough anymore, then you get a new job in another city, etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Interesting. In my country most people rent so typically if you can afford to buy or build a house you plan to live in there until you die. Sure sometimes circumstances change but the concept of owninc a starter home is completely alien to me.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    In the US it varies a lot. Some places, like NYC or DC you might rent forever and that's perfectly common. Other places which are not as urban focused, think medium cities that are big but not super dense, you could choose to live down town and rent or buy apartments or you could live in the suburbs or rural country. Some people live in small cities far from any major city and options to rent apartments are rare, you are more likely to rent a small house, live in a mobile home, or you own a house of varying quality.

    Here is an example: Let's say you live in Verdigris Oklahoma, outside of Tulsa. Here is a mobile home for $76k with 112 m^2. Here is a home for $195k with 938 m^2 land and 130 m^2 living space. Median income for Tulsa is $41k with married households having a median income of $99k. Tulsa is a 20 minute drive from Verdigris.

    If you then get a job offer in Oklahoma City making more money, Oklahoma City has a median income of $67k with family median incomes being $83k (let's assume your family is beating the median since you're moving for this job). Here are a few houses that are in or near Oklahoma City 1 2 3 3 4

    Here's another example. Maybe you have a job on the west side of Richmond Virginia. Richmond has a median income of $64k but you live in Chesterfield Virginia maybe in this town home and have a 15 min commute to work. You get a new job on the north side of Richmond and you're getting married soon. You decide to sell your place, upgrade, and move closer to your new work so you buy this place.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago*

    I'm on my 3rd home. The first I lived in for 10 years, then sold it when I moved to a different state. The 2nd one, in the new state, I lived in for 2 years before I realized the HOA was shady as hell and it was likely that all the owners were going to be on the hook for paying to replace all the storm drains and roads. I've been in the current house for 6 years.

    I see at least 1 more in the future to escape the hell hole that is NC.

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