▲ 983 ▼ BREAKING: Death toll from US operation in Venezuela has risen to 80, according to New York Times report. (www.nytimes.com) submitted 7 months ago by clot27@lemmy.zip to c/world@lemmy.world 372 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (1 child) *International Suggestions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] filister@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (3 children) Yes, exactly, and if the USA can do what they please why should other countries comply with it? It creates a dangerous precedent and an example for other authoritarian regimes. And I am afraid that Venezuela is just the beginning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BoJackHorseman@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago Venezuela is not the beginning. America has always been a terrorist state. You just have the memory of a goldfish. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Calvinball-based international order permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Everybody with nukes does as the please. US, Russia, China, North Korea, Israel... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Everyone who abuses their power suffers economic repercussions at a minimum, militaristic repurcussions via the funding and arming of their opponents in some cases, but the precedent here being set is China asking "if the world won't defend you, why should you defend the world?" It's a dangerous warmongering idea that unfortunately might be taking root. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) The US hasn't really suffered any serious consequences, yet. Similar to China. Russia didn't until Ukraine, before that they messed in Chechnya, Georgia, etc with impunity. I don't see anyone coming to the aid of Tibet or the uyghurs either, China is pretty scot free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) and Ukraine only because it borders Europe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 months ago Some would argue 'is in Europe "even. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Technically, Russia saw a lot of pushback over Crimea which directly predated the rest of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago Very very minor. Some strongly worded letters and symbolic sanctions. They could have kept crimea and most of the donbas and in a decade things would have gone back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] filister@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (3 children) Yes, exactly, and if the USA can do what they please why should other countries comply with it? It creates a dangerous precedent and an example for other authoritarian regimes. And I am afraid that Venezuela is just the beginning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BoJackHorseman@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago Venezuela is not the beginning. America has always been a terrorist state. You just have the memory of a goldfish. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Calvinball-based international order permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Everybody with nukes does as the please. US, Russia, China, North Korea, Israel... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Everyone who abuses their power suffers economic repercussions at a minimum, militaristic repurcussions via the funding and arming of their opponents in some cases, but the precedent here being set is China asking "if the world won't defend you, why should you defend the world?" It's a dangerous warmongering idea that unfortunately might be taking root. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) The US hasn't really suffered any serious consequences, yet. Similar to China. Russia didn't until Ukraine, before that they messed in Chechnya, Georgia, etc with impunity. I don't see anyone coming to the aid of Tibet or the uyghurs either, China is pretty scot free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) and Ukraine only because it borders Europe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 months ago Some would argue 'is in Europe "even. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Technically, Russia saw a lot of pushback over Crimea which directly predated the rest of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago Very very minor. Some strongly worded letters and symbolic sanctions. They could have kept crimea and most of the donbas and in a decade things would have gone back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BoJackHorseman@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago Venezuela is not the beginning. America has always been a terrorist state. You just have the memory of a goldfish. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago Calvinball-based international order permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Everybody with nukes does as the please. US, Russia, China, North Korea, Israel... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Everyone who abuses their power suffers economic repercussions at a minimum, militaristic repurcussions via the funding and arming of their opponents in some cases, but the precedent here being set is China asking "if the world won't defend you, why should you defend the world?" It's a dangerous warmongering idea that unfortunately might be taking root. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) The US hasn't really suffered any serious consequences, yet. Similar to China. Russia didn't until Ukraine, before that they messed in Chechnya, Georgia, etc with impunity. I don't see anyone coming to the aid of Tibet or the uyghurs either, China is pretty scot free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) and Ukraine only because it borders Europe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 months ago Some would argue 'is in Europe "even. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Technically, Russia saw a lot of pushback over Crimea which directly predated the rest of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago Very very minor. Some strongly worded letters and symbolic sanctions. They could have kept crimea and most of the donbas and in a decade things would have gone back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Everyone who abuses their power suffers economic repercussions at a minimum, militaristic repurcussions via the funding and arming of their opponents in some cases, but the precedent here being set is China asking "if the world won't defend you, why should you defend the world?" It's a dangerous warmongering idea that unfortunately might be taking root. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) The US hasn't really suffered any serious consequences, yet. Similar to China. Russia didn't until Ukraine, before that they messed in Chechnya, Georgia, etc with impunity. I don't see anyone coming to the aid of Tibet or the uyghurs either, China is pretty scot free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) and Ukraine only because it borders Europe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 months ago Some would argue 'is in Europe "even. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Technically, Russia saw a lot of pushback over Crimea which directly predated the rest of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago Very very minor. Some strongly worded letters and symbolic sanctions. They could have kept crimea and most of the donbas and in a decade things would have gone back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) The US hasn't really suffered any serious consequences, yet. Similar to China. Russia didn't until Ukraine, before that they messed in Chechnya, Georgia, etc with impunity. I don't see anyone coming to the aid of Tibet or the uyghurs either, China is pretty scot free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) and Ukraine only because it borders Europe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 months ago Some would argue 'is in Europe "even. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Technically, Russia saw a lot of pushback over Crimea which directly predated the rest of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago Very very minor. Some strongly worded letters and symbolic sanctions. They could have kept crimea and most of the donbas and in a decade things would have gone back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) and Ukraine only because it borders Europe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 months ago Some would argue 'is in Europe "even. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 point 7 months ago Some would argue 'is in Europe "even. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Technically, Russia saw a lot of pushback over Crimea which directly predated the rest of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago Very very minor. Some strongly worded letters and symbolic sanctions. They could have kept crimea and most of the donbas and in a decade things would have gone back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago Very very minor. Some strongly worded letters and symbolic sanctions. They could have kept crimea and most of the donbas and in a decade things would have gone back to normal. permalink fedilink source parent