▲ 608 ▼ manbearpig (quokk.au) submitted 7 months ago by Deceptichum@quokk.au [M] to c/peoplemastodon@quokk.au 360 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au [S] 16 points 7 months ago (1 child) Fuck equality! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) I do love that picture. I wish it'd be more reflected in real life. That said, none of those people are being brought DOWN - the people in need are being brought UP. Big difference permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 7 months ago (2 children) Fuck misogynists. If you're not a misogynist you shouldn't feel hurt when I say that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago (4 children) Agreed. But it's not "would you rather be stuck in the woods alone with a bear or a misogynist", it's with a man, isn't it? People can't help what they're born as. You're judging them for something completely out of their control. Their gender no less, which a lot of men aren't happy they were assigned. And on the other hand you're actively shitting on trans masc choices to be men. I just don't think this sweeping sexism is the answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago It's not sweeping sexism, it's just toxic masculinity that's the problem. Feminism is the solution to most problems with men. Men are the ones rejecting the solution without even considering it. So who is sexist here? Nobody is faulting men for their gender. They are being accused of protecting the bad actors by acting like 'no there is not a problem, I'm the good one'. By staying oblivious in face of the facts, and not owning up to it and saying 'those stats are fucked up, we need to do better', you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] asret@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago If I offered you some candy from a big bowl of Skittles and told you that only a handful were poisoned, would you eat one? One bad apple spoils the bunch etc. The man/bear thing seems stupid to me - but that's probably just because I've missed the point of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago trans masc choices to be men Isn't "choice" generally regarded as a problematic and incorrect term to use? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago It's with a random man. You're not a random man, you're you. If a random man isn't safe, that doesn't mean anything about you. You're not Spiders Georg. That's why it looks like solidarity when you defend the random man. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) A potential solution to a lot of gender-related issues is to make agender the default. Gender should be opt-in not opt-out. This way more people will not have a gender to be treated as, and people will get more used to treating people in the same way with little regard for gender. However, this would be difficult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago With that framing, there wouln't be a patriarchy to fight against - just the establishment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Uh...this is a joke, yeah? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) I do love that picture. I wish it'd be more reflected in real life. That said, none of those people are being brought DOWN - the people in need are being brought UP. Big difference permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 7 months ago (2 children) Fuck misogynists. If you're not a misogynist you shouldn't feel hurt when I say that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago (4 children) Agreed. But it's not "would you rather be stuck in the woods alone with a bear or a misogynist", it's with a man, isn't it? People can't help what they're born as. You're judging them for something completely out of their control. Their gender no less, which a lot of men aren't happy they were assigned. And on the other hand you're actively shitting on trans masc choices to be men. I just don't think this sweeping sexism is the answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago It's not sweeping sexism, it's just toxic masculinity that's the problem. Feminism is the solution to most problems with men. Men are the ones rejecting the solution without even considering it. So who is sexist here? Nobody is faulting men for their gender. They are being accused of protecting the bad actors by acting like 'no there is not a problem, I'm the good one'. By staying oblivious in face of the facts, and not owning up to it and saying 'those stats are fucked up, we need to do better', you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] asret@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago If I offered you some candy from a big bowl of Skittles and told you that only a handful were poisoned, would you eat one? One bad apple spoils the bunch etc. The man/bear thing seems stupid to me - but that's probably just because I've missed the point of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago trans masc choices to be men Isn't "choice" generally regarded as a problematic and incorrect term to use? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago It's with a random man. You're not a random man, you're you. If a random man isn't safe, that doesn't mean anything about you. You're not Spiders Georg. That's why it looks like solidarity when you defend the random man. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) A potential solution to a lot of gender-related issues is to make agender the default. Gender should be opt-in not opt-out. This way more people will not have a gender to be treated as, and people will get more used to treating people in the same way with little regard for gender. However, this would be difficult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago With that framing, there wouln't be a patriarchy to fight against - just the establishment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Uh...this is a joke, yeah? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 7 months ago (2 children) Fuck misogynists. If you're not a misogynist you shouldn't feel hurt when I say that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago (4 children) Agreed. But it's not "would you rather be stuck in the woods alone with a bear or a misogynist", it's with a man, isn't it? People can't help what they're born as. You're judging them for something completely out of their control. Their gender no less, which a lot of men aren't happy they were assigned. And on the other hand you're actively shitting on trans masc choices to be men. I just don't think this sweeping sexism is the answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago It's not sweeping sexism, it's just toxic masculinity that's the problem. Feminism is the solution to most problems with men. Men are the ones rejecting the solution without even considering it. So who is sexist here? Nobody is faulting men for their gender. They are being accused of protecting the bad actors by acting like 'no there is not a problem, I'm the good one'. By staying oblivious in face of the facts, and not owning up to it and saying 'those stats are fucked up, we need to do better', you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] asret@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago If I offered you some candy from a big bowl of Skittles and told you that only a handful were poisoned, would you eat one? One bad apple spoils the bunch etc. The man/bear thing seems stupid to me - but that's probably just because I've missed the point of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago trans masc choices to be men Isn't "choice" generally regarded as a problematic and incorrect term to use? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago It's with a random man. You're not a random man, you're you. If a random man isn't safe, that doesn't mean anything about you. You're not Spiders Georg. That's why it looks like solidarity when you defend the random man. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) A potential solution to a lot of gender-related issues is to make agender the default. Gender should be opt-in not opt-out. This way more people will not have a gender to be treated as, and people will get more used to treating people in the same way with little regard for gender. However, this would be difficult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago With that framing, there wouln't be a patriarchy to fight against - just the establishment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Uh...this is a joke, yeah? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago (4 children) Agreed. But it's not "would you rather be stuck in the woods alone with a bear or a misogynist", it's with a man, isn't it? People can't help what they're born as. You're judging them for something completely out of their control. Their gender no less, which a lot of men aren't happy they were assigned. And on the other hand you're actively shitting on trans masc choices to be men. I just don't think this sweeping sexism is the answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago It's not sweeping sexism, it's just toxic masculinity that's the problem. Feminism is the solution to most problems with men. Men are the ones rejecting the solution without even considering it. So who is sexist here? Nobody is faulting men for their gender. They are being accused of protecting the bad actors by acting like 'no there is not a problem, I'm the good one'. By staying oblivious in face of the facts, and not owning up to it and saying 'those stats are fucked up, we need to do better', you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] asret@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago If I offered you some candy from a big bowl of Skittles and told you that only a handful were poisoned, would you eat one? One bad apple spoils the bunch etc. The man/bear thing seems stupid to me - but that's probably just because I've missed the point of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago trans masc choices to be men Isn't "choice" generally regarded as a problematic and incorrect term to use? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago It's with a random man. You're not a random man, you're you. If a random man isn't safe, that doesn't mean anything about you. You're not Spiders Georg. That's why it looks like solidarity when you defend the random man. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago It's not sweeping sexism, it's just toxic masculinity that's the problem. Feminism is the solution to most problems with men. Men are the ones rejecting the solution without even considering it. So who is sexist here? Nobody is faulting men for their gender. They are being accused of protecting the bad actors by acting like 'no there is not a problem, I'm the good one'. By staying oblivious in face of the facts, and not owning up to it and saying 'those stats are fucked up, we need to do better', you are part of the problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] asret@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago If I offered you some candy from a big bowl of Skittles and told you that only a handful were poisoned, would you eat one? One bad apple spoils the bunch etc. The man/bear thing seems stupid to me - but that's probably just because I've missed the point of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago trans masc choices to be men Isn't "choice" generally regarded as a problematic and incorrect term to use? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago It's with a random man. You're not a random man, you're you. If a random man isn't safe, that doesn't mean anything about you. You're not Spiders Georg. That's why it looks like solidarity when you defend the random man. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) A potential solution to a lot of gender-related issues is to make agender the default. Gender should be opt-in not opt-out. This way more people will not have a gender to be treated as, and people will get more used to treating people in the same way with little regard for gender. However, this would be difficult. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago With that framing, there wouln't be a patriarchy to fight against - just the establishment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Uh...this is a joke, yeah? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago With that framing, there wouln't be a patriarchy to fight against - just the establishment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago Uh...this is a joke, yeah? 😅 permalink fedilink source parent
