▲ 222 ▼ Linux gaming is growing! The Roblox client Sober was downloaded 1.3 million times this year. (lemmy.world) submitted 7 months ago by TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.world 51 comments fedilink hide all child comments Sober is exclusively available on Flathub, whom published these figures in their Year In Review: https://flathub.org/en/year-in-review/2025
[–] fonix232@fedia.io 10 points 7 months ago (5 children) Given the prevalence of predators on Roblox and the company's absolute ignorance of the issue, I have some concerns about your parenting here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] stephen01king@piefed.zip 24 points 7 months ago (3 children) As long as he doesn't let the kid play unsupervised, I don't think there's a problem outside of using things that might be the result of child exploitation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children) Good in theory but can you actually picture parents watching their kids play Roblox every time so carefully they don’t miss them talking with the wrong people? I mean…that doesn’t sound remotely realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago (1 child) Correct. It's much easier to just set the chat controls to "no one". https://en.help.roblox.com/hc/en-us/articles/30428310121620-Parental-Controls-Overview permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (1 child) Also sounds good in theory but kids often want to play with their friends so good luck trying to isolate them like that Plus, I’d put money at least 95% of parents aren’t going to want or be able to make comprehensive enough parental control schemes to do more than filter out violence and curse words, hardly effective against child exploitation Plus with them basically shutting down the FBI…I’d say don’t let them play it at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago (1 child) I don't care about what other parents do, I know what we do. The kids can chat as much as they want with their friends - outside of Roblox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* Good policy but unfortunately we all do have to care a little bit about what other parents do because they’re causing problems for society at large that we can all reasonably fix with smart policy permalink fedilink source parent [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Supervision isn't sat down watching them the entire time. It's keeping an eye on them and monitoring what they are doing. And maybe have whatever they're playing on set up in a space that's easily viewable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Well then there’s no realistic way to actually supervise what they’re doing in Roblox because you would have no idea they’re talking to creepy adults every single day for years unless you actually monitor them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago It's much easier if you talk to your child. Who is that person? Are they a friend from school? What kind of things do they talk to you about? And so on. You don't need to be watching 24/7, you just need to be checking and also talking with your kid about things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 6 points 7 months ago (2 children) Aren't most of the games you can play there ultimately the result of exploited and unpaid child labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I started making my own games on an Atari ST at 12 years of age. Never considered the fun I had to be "exploited labor" when I let someone else play them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 9 points 7 months ago Well, that's a bit different from the situation with Roblox. Check this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ permalink fedilink source parent [–] stephen01king@piefed.zip 2 points 7 months ago Is it most? I haven't seen the statistics. permalink fedilink source parent [+] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 child) Look any game aimed at children is going to have this issue. And trying to force the kid to never play the big game all their friends are almost certainly playing is a fool's errand. Best bet is to let them do so with supervision than to end up with a kid trying to play in secret on their phone or something. Along with just... Talking to them about this problem and what to do if they encounter someone being creepy to them. Kids can be pretty smart if you help them and make it clear that they can come to you for that help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fonix232@fedia.io 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) any game aimed at children is going to have this issue not at all. it just needs moderation, something Roblox's leadership has actively decided against because the predators were buying enough Robux to make it a major financial hit to remove paedos from the platform... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago I'm going to be honest: I have a hard time believing it's actually worse than on the kind if sites I used when I was a kid. The problem exists and they aren't doing what they could, but I get the distinct feeling the weird To Catch A Predator fad is blowing a real problem up into an impossible crisis. Much like what happened back when the show itself was airing. Like I need to see some serious, hard evidence that's not just outrage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] troed@fedia.io 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I will fight tooth and nail for your right to freely show your stupidity online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldebryn@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) While I understand you taking offense at this reply, you can't really call them stupid when the issue of Roblox having predators and also the game itself promoting child work exploitation are both well documented issues that the makers of Roblox have been dodging instead of effectively addressing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 1 point 7 months ago Of course I can call them stupid, since they without any information whatsoever as to the communication settings my kids have (none allowed) called my parenting into question. It really doesn't get more stupid than that even. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago Don't worry they're implementing ai age verification with strict restrictions so you can only play with people that aren't your real age permalink fedilink source parent [–] brax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago You're making an awful lot of assumptions... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stephen01king@piefed.zip 24 points 7 months ago (3 children) As long as he doesn't let the kid play unsupervised, I don't think there's a problem outside of using things that might be the result of child exploitation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children) Good in theory but can you actually picture parents watching their kids play Roblox every time so carefully they don’t miss them talking with the wrong people? I mean…that doesn’t sound remotely realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago (1 child) Correct. It's much easier to just set the chat controls to "no one". https://en.help.roblox.com/hc/en-us/articles/30428310121620-Parental-Controls-Overview permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (1 child) Also sounds good in theory but kids often want to play with their friends so good luck trying to isolate them like that Plus, I’d put money at least 95% of parents aren’t going to want or be able to make comprehensive enough parental control schemes to do more than filter out violence and curse words, hardly effective against child exploitation Plus with them basically shutting down the FBI…I’d say don’t let them play it at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago (1 child) I don't care about what other parents do, I know what we do. The kids can chat as much as they want with their friends - outside of Roblox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* Good policy but unfortunately we all do have to care a little bit about what other parents do because they’re causing problems for society at large that we can all reasonably fix with smart policy permalink fedilink source parent [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Supervision isn't sat down watching them the entire time. It's keeping an eye on them and monitoring what they are doing. And maybe have whatever they're playing on set up in a space that's easily viewable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Well then there’s no realistic way to actually supervise what they’re doing in Roblox because you would have no idea they’re talking to creepy adults every single day for years unless you actually monitor them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago It's much easier if you talk to your child. Who is that person? Are they a friend from school? What kind of things do they talk to you about? And so on. You don't need to be watching 24/7, you just need to be checking and also talking with your kid about things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 6 points 7 months ago (2 children) Aren't most of the games you can play there ultimately the result of exploited and unpaid child labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I started making my own games on an Atari ST at 12 years of age. Never considered the fun I had to be "exploited labor" when I let someone else play them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 9 points 7 months ago Well, that's a bit different from the situation with Roblox. Check this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ permalink fedilink source parent [–] stephen01king@piefed.zip 2 points 7 months ago Is it most? I haven't seen the statistics. permalink fedilink source parent [+] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children) Good in theory but can you actually picture parents watching their kids play Roblox every time so carefully they don’t miss them talking with the wrong people? I mean…that doesn’t sound remotely realistic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago (1 child) Correct. It's much easier to just set the chat controls to "no one". https://en.help.roblox.com/hc/en-us/articles/30428310121620-Parental-Controls-Overview permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (1 child) Also sounds good in theory but kids often want to play with their friends so good luck trying to isolate them like that Plus, I’d put money at least 95% of parents aren’t going to want or be able to make comprehensive enough parental control schemes to do more than filter out violence and curse words, hardly effective against child exploitation Plus with them basically shutting down the FBI…I’d say don’t let them play it at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago (1 child) I don't care about what other parents do, I know what we do. The kids can chat as much as they want with their friends - outside of Roblox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* Good policy but unfortunately we all do have to care a little bit about what other parents do because they’re causing problems for society at large that we can all reasonably fix with smart policy permalink fedilink source parent [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Supervision isn't sat down watching them the entire time. It's keeping an eye on them and monitoring what they are doing. And maybe have whatever they're playing on set up in a space that's easily viewable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Well then there’s no realistic way to actually supervise what they’re doing in Roblox because you would have no idea they’re talking to creepy adults every single day for years unless you actually monitor them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago It's much easier if you talk to your child. Who is that person? Are they a friend from school? What kind of things do they talk to you about? And so on. You don't need to be watching 24/7, you just need to be checking and also talking with your kid about things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] troed@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago (1 child) Correct. It's much easier to just set the chat controls to "no one". https://en.help.roblox.com/hc/en-us/articles/30428310121620-Parental-Controls-Overview permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (1 child) Also sounds good in theory but kids often want to play with their friends so good luck trying to isolate them like that Plus, I’d put money at least 95% of parents aren’t going to want or be able to make comprehensive enough parental control schemes to do more than filter out violence and curse words, hardly effective against child exploitation Plus with them basically shutting down the FBI…I’d say don’t let them play it at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago (1 child) I don't care about what other parents do, I know what we do. The kids can chat as much as they want with their friends - outside of Roblox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* Good policy but unfortunately we all do have to care a little bit about what other parents do because they’re causing problems for society at large that we can all reasonably fix with smart policy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (1 child) Also sounds good in theory but kids often want to play with their friends so good luck trying to isolate them like that Plus, I’d put money at least 95% of parents aren’t going to want or be able to make comprehensive enough parental control schemes to do more than filter out violence and curse words, hardly effective against child exploitation Plus with them basically shutting down the FBI…I’d say don’t let them play it at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago (1 child) I don't care about what other parents do, I know what we do. The kids can chat as much as they want with their friends - outside of Roblox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* Good policy but unfortunately we all do have to care a little bit about what other parents do because they’re causing problems for society at large that we can all reasonably fix with smart policy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] troed@fedia.io 19 points 7 months ago (1 child) I don't care about what other parents do, I know what we do. The kids can chat as much as they want with their friends - outside of Roblox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* Good policy but unfortunately we all do have to care a little bit about what other parents do because they’re causing problems for society at large that we can all reasonably fix with smart policy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* Good policy but unfortunately we all do have to care a little bit about what other parents do because they’re causing problems for society at large that we can all reasonably fix with smart policy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Supervision isn't sat down watching them the entire time. It's keeping an eye on them and monitoring what they are doing. And maybe have whatever they're playing on set up in a space that's easily viewable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Well then there’s no realistic way to actually supervise what they’re doing in Roblox because you would have no idea they’re talking to creepy adults every single day for years unless you actually monitor them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago It's much easier if you talk to your child. Who is that person? Are they a friend from school? What kind of things do they talk to you about? And so on. You don't need to be watching 24/7, you just need to be checking and also talking with your kid about things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Well then there’s no realistic way to actually supervise what they’re doing in Roblox because you would have no idea they’re talking to creepy adults every single day for years unless you actually monitor them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago It's much easier if you talk to your child. Who is that person? Are they a friend from school? What kind of things do they talk to you about? And so on. You don't need to be watching 24/7, you just need to be checking and also talking with your kid about things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago It's much easier if you talk to your child. Who is that person? Are they a friend from school? What kind of things do they talk to you about? And so on. You don't need to be watching 24/7, you just need to be checking and also talking with your kid about things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 6 points 7 months ago (2 children) Aren't most of the games you can play there ultimately the result of exploited and unpaid child labor? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I started making my own games on an Atari ST at 12 years of age. Never considered the fun I had to be "exploited labor" when I let someone else play them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 9 points 7 months ago Well, that's a bit different from the situation with Roblox. Check this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ permalink fedilink source parent [–] stephen01king@piefed.zip 2 points 7 months ago Is it most? I haven't seen the statistics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] troed@fedia.io 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I started making my own games on an Atari ST at 12 years of age. Never considered the fun I had to be "exploited labor" when I let someone else play them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 9 points 7 months ago Well, that's a bit different from the situation with Roblox. Check this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 9 points 7 months ago Well, that's a bit different from the situation with Roblox. Check this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stephen01king@piefed.zip 2 points 7 months ago Is it most? I haven't seen the statistics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 child) Look any game aimed at children is going to have this issue. And trying to force the kid to never play the big game all their friends are almost certainly playing is a fool's errand. Best bet is to let them do so with supervision than to end up with a kid trying to play in secret on their phone or something. Along with just... Talking to them about this problem and what to do if they encounter someone being creepy to them. Kids can be pretty smart if you help them and make it clear that they can come to you for that help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fonix232@fedia.io 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) any game aimed at children is going to have this issue not at all. it just needs moderation, something Roblox's leadership has actively decided against because the predators were buying enough Robux to make it a major financial hit to remove paedos from the platform... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago I'm going to be honest: I have a hard time believing it's actually worse than on the kind if sites I used when I was a kid. The problem exists and they aren't doing what they could, but I get the distinct feeling the weird To Catch A Predator fad is blowing a real problem up into an impossible crisis. Much like what happened back when the show itself was airing. Like I need to see some serious, hard evidence that's not just outrage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fonix232@fedia.io 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) any game aimed at children is going to have this issue not at all. it just needs moderation, something Roblox's leadership has actively decided against because the predators were buying enough Robux to make it a major financial hit to remove paedos from the platform... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago I'm going to be honest: I have a hard time believing it's actually worse than on the kind if sites I used when I was a kid. The problem exists and they aren't doing what they could, but I get the distinct feeling the weird To Catch A Predator fad is blowing a real problem up into an impossible crisis. Much like what happened back when the show itself was airing. Like I need to see some serious, hard evidence that's not just outrage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago I'm going to be honest: I have a hard time believing it's actually worse than on the kind if sites I used when I was a kid. The problem exists and they aren't doing what they could, but I get the distinct feeling the weird To Catch A Predator fad is blowing a real problem up into an impossible crisis. Much like what happened back when the show itself was airing. Like I need to see some serious, hard evidence that's not just outrage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] troed@fedia.io 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I will fight tooth and nail for your right to freely show your stupidity online. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eldebryn@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) While I understand you taking offense at this reply, you can't really call them stupid when the issue of Roblox having predators and also the game itself promoting child work exploitation are both well documented issues that the makers of Roblox have been dodging instead of effectively addressing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 1 point 7 months ago Of course I can call them stupid, since they without any information whatsoever as to the communication settings my kids have (none allowed) called my parenting into question. It really doesn't get more stupid than that even. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldebryn@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) While I understand you taking offense at this reply, you can't really call them stupid when the issue of Roblox having predators and also the game itself promoting child work exploitation are both well documented issues that the makers of Roblox have been dodging instead of effectively addressing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] troed@fedia.io 1 point 7 months ago Of course I can call them stupid, since they without any information whatsoever as to the communication settings my kids have (none allowed) called my parenting into question. It really doesn't get more stupid than that even. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] troed@fedia.io 1 point 7 months ago Of course I can call them stupid, since they without any information whatsoever as to the communication settings my kids have (none allowed) called my parenting into question. It really doesn't get more stupid than that even. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago Don't worry they're implementing ai age verification with strict restrictions so you can only play with people that aren't your real age permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago You're making an awful lot of assumptions... permalink fedilink source parent
