▲ 73 ▼ Anti-Trans Groups Want a Bathroom Ban. Judges Aren’t Giving Them One (novaramedia.com) submitted 7 months ago by okwithmydecay@leminal.space to c/unitedkingdom@feddit.uk 17 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Non/gendered washrooms with floor-to-ceiling stalls, cameras allowed in the handwashing areas. Problem solved. Edit: only on Lemmy would people be more worried about bathroom throughput over shutting up assholes. 😆 permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 11 points 7 months ago (2 children) Not a fan of putting up more surveillance in general, even less so in public toilets. Also what happens to the urinals in this scenario? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago You either have a completely different section or just get rid of them altogether permalink fedilink source parent [–] Denjin@feddit.uk 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Urinals are purely there to increase throughput and reduce cleaning time. Just get rid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Increasing throughput and reducing cleaning time are both good things, though. Increased throughput means less queuing and being able to quickly relieve yourself. In a shared toilet, this would benefit men and women alike. Making cleaning quicker and easier means it'll happen more and be less disruptive when it does happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Denjin@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) But if you want to make true ungendered toilets (as was suggested) that are accessible to all, having a section where a bunch of guys all basically get their cocks out and piss in a trough kinda prevents that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Apocalypteroid@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago Just have one room full of urinals, one room full of stalls, both ungendered. So then anyone can use any facility they feel most comfortable with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago Sometimes gendered stuff makes sense - like urinals. As you mentioned they're efficient and I'd imagine a large part of why the gents toilets don't have big queues. I'm all for trans folk using whatever toilet they want, I'm more worried about the folk who are presumably checking everyone's genitals to make sure they're in the correct toilet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 point 7 months ago Trans women can use urinals too if they want. Not sure where you're getting the piss trough thing from I've only ever seen one of those at boy scout camp 30 years ago. Most urinals are individual stalls and are great for not having to smell the horrendous dump someone just took in the toilet stalls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 11 points 7 months ago (2 children) Not a fan of putting up more surveillance in general, even less so in public toilets. Also what happens to the urinals in this scenario? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago You either have a completely different section or just get rid of them altogether permalink fedilink source parent [–] Denjin@feddit.uk 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Urinals are purely there to increase throughput and reduce cleaning time. Just get rid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Increasing throughput and reducing cleaning time are both good things, though. Increased throughput means less queuing and being able to quickly relieve yourself. In a shared toilet, this would benefit men and women alike. Making cleaning quicker and easier means it'll happen more and be less disruptive when it does happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Denjin@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) But if you want to make true ungendered toilets (as was suggested) that are accessible to all, having a section where a bunch of guys all basically get their cocks out and piss in a trough kinda prevents that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Apocalypteroid@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago Just have one room full of urinals, one room full of stalls, both ungendered. So then anyone can use any facility they feel most comfortable with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago Sometimes gendered stuff makes sense - like urinals. As you mentioned they're efficient and I'd imagine a large part of why the gents toilets don't have big queues. I'm all for trans folk using whatever toilet they want, I'm more worried about the folk who are presumably checking everyone's genitals to make sure they're in the correct toilet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 point 7 months ago Trans women can use urinals too if they want. Not sure where you're getting the piss trough thing from I've only ever seen one of those at boy scout camp 30 years ago. Most urinals are individual stalls and are great for not having to smell the horrendous dump someone just took in the toilet stalls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago You either have a completely different section or just get rid of them altogether permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Urinals are purely there to increase throughput and reduce cleaning time. Just get rid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Increasing throughput and reducing cleaning time are both good things, though. Increased throughput means less queuing and being able to quickly relieve yourself. In a shared toilet, this would benefit men and women alike. Making cleaning quicker and easier means it'll happen more and be less disruptive when it does happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Denjin@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) But if you want to make true ungendered toilets (as was suggested) that are accessible to all, having a section where a bunch of guys all basically get their cocks out and piss in a trough kinda prevents that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Apocalypteroid@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago Just have one room full of urinals, one room full of stalls, both ungendered. So then anyone can use any facility they feel most comfortable with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago Sometimes gendered stuff makes sense - like urinals. As you mentioned they're efficient and I'd imagine a large part of why the gents toilets don't have big queues. I'm all for trans folk using whatever toilet they want, I'm more worried about the folk who are presumably checking everyone's genitals to make sure they're in the correct toilet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 point 7 months ago Trans women can use urinals too if they want. Not sure where you're getting the piss trough thing from I've only ever seen one of those at boy scout camp 30 years ago. Most urinals are individual stalls and are great for not having to smell the horrendous dump someone just took in the toilet stalls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) Increasing throughput and reducing cleaning time are both good things, though. Increased throughput means less queuing and being able to quickly relieve yourself. In a shared toilet, this would benefit men and women alike. Making cleaning quicker and easier means it'll happen more and be less disruptive when it does happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Denjin@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) But if you want to make true ungendered toilets (as was suggested) that are accessible to all, having a section where a bunch of guys all basically get their cocks out and piss in a trough kinda prevents that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Apocalypteroid@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago Just have one room full of urinals, one room full of stalls, both ungendered. So then anyone can use any facility they feel most comfortable with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago Sometimes gendered stuff makes sense - like urinals. As you mentioned they're efficient and I'd imagine a large part of why the gents toilets don't have big queues. I'm all for trans folk using whatever toilet they want, I'm more worried about the folk who are presumably checking everyone's genitals to make sure they're in the correct toilet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 point 7 months ago Trans women can use urinals too if they want. Not sure where you're getting the piss trough thing from I've only ever seen one of those at boy scout camp 30 years ago. Most urinals are individual stalls and are great for not having to smell the horrendous dump someone just took in the toilet stalls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago (3 children) But if you want to make true ungendered toilets (as was suggested) that are accessible to all, having a section where a bunch of guys all basically get their cocks out and piss in a trough kinda prevents that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Apocalypteroid@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago Just have one room full of urinals, one room full of stalls, both ungendered. So then anyone can use any facility they feel most comfortable with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago Sometimes gendered stuff makes sense - like urinals. As you mentioned they're efficient and I'd imagine a large part of why the gents toilets don't have big queues. I'm all for trans folk using whatever toilet they want, I'm more worried about the folk who are presumably checking everyone's genitals to make sure they're in the correct toilet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 point 7 months ago Trans women can use urinals too if they want. Not sure where you're getting the piss trough thing from I've only ever seen one of those at boy scout camp 30 years ago. Most urinals are individual stalls and are great for not having to smell the horrendous dump someone just took in the toilet stalls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Apocalypteroid@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago Just have one room full of urinals, one room full of stalls, both ungendered. So then anyone can use any facility they feel most comfortable with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago Sometimes gendered stuff makes sense - like urinals. As you mentioned they're efficient and I'd imagine a large part of why the gents toilets don't have big queues. I'm all for trans folk using whatever toilet they want, I'm more worried about the folk who are presumably checking everyone's genitals to make sure they're in the correct toilet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 point 7 months ago Trans women can use urinals too if they want. Not sure where you're getting the piss trough thing from I've only ever seen one of those at boy scout camp 30 years ago. Most urinals are individual stalls and are great for not having to smell the horrendous dump someone just took in the toilet stalls. permalink fedilink source parent