▲ 556 ▼ ChatGPT is down worldwide, conversations disappeared for users (www.bleepingcomputer.com) submitted 8 months ago by TheBat@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 215 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -86 points 8 months ago (6 children) No, fuck off. Don't use it if you don't like it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) Aw looks like somebody's cranky because they can't ask chatbot how to wipe their butt. Hopefully they'll get your nanny online again soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -13 points 8 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] __ghost__@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago Oof what's your deal permalink fedilink source parent [+] leftist_lawyer@lemmy.today 21 points 8 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -40 points 8 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mad_djinn@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 child) its a matter of scale and social responsibility. you may have just accepted total environmental destruction as a basic fact of human existence. thats your own problem, more like your children's problem. but I would love to hear you defend data centers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -17 points 8 months ago* Fuck you hypocrite. How much pollution do you put in the sky driving or riding in cars? How many kids died making your smartphone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) ChatGPT must really be on the fritz. This dude is having to write these responses by himself lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -10 points 8 months ago Can't do better that huh? Pretty fucking pathetic, dude. permalink fedilink source parent [–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Harming the environment to warm your family or earn a living wage is one thing. Harming the environment to commit mass plagiarism is another. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -14 points 8 months ago* (1 child) "It's ok when I do it because I'm a fucking hypocrite". It's not "mass plagiarism", you fucking morons continue to display your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) What, then, do you call taking and manipulating the creations of many others and passing them off as your own? How are those of us taking a principled stance against theft the morons? permalink fedilink source parent [–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago (1 child) Weird that you need a digital dumbass that's constantly wrong to help you out with your life... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -50 points 8 months ago (3 children) Couldn't be more obvious you don't know what you're talking about. It's hardly "constantly wrong". Childish hyperbole. Weird that you give a fuck what I do to improve my life, you arrogant prick. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago (1 child) The ectoplasm is angry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -30 points 8 months ago (1 child) Well maybe the ectoplasm should chill out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Yeah, you probably should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -15 points 8 months ago (1 child) Lol, any actual reason for calling me "ectoplasm" or did you pick a random word or something? Pointing out me being angry isn't answering the question I posed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re defending slop, reacting like the slime in Ghostbusters. I’d usually call you a slopvangelical LLM thumper, but I’m trying to branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) hear here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) If you think it's only ability is "making slop", that means you're ignorant and proud of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (1 child) No, I'm defending a useful tool. I don't use it to make "slop", I use it to help improve aspects of my life. Fuck me, right? How fucking dare I do that UNLESS it's by a method you approve? You're the ignorant one that thinks the only use is to make AI art or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago Dig up, mate. None of this AI grift is meant to be treated as serious. The very foundation it’s built upon is energised sand performing explicitly and purposefully inaccurate and imprecise calculations in an explosively cascading sequence. How better to describe the result of this than as slop? Much like any other religious adherence, I don’t care what you believe and subject yourself to personally, but my threshold for calling out and ridiculing is the same. When those beliefs and impositions are forced on non-believers without consent, which is what’s happening from this hype cycle. permalink fedilink source parent [+] wooffersyt@lemmings.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago These threads are always a massive circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent [–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago literally every time I gave one of these things a shot they gave me at least one blatantly wrong answer. considering by how animated you got from the get go about the mere idea of having it shut down, you're probably not the type that would notice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _lilith@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago whats the matter? need the computer to think for you? need it to fuck your wife? is babys toy broken? permalink fedilink source parent [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) Tell the people using it ON us to stop then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -23 points 8 months ago (1 child) I'm not using it ON you. Also, I don't control other people. Nor am I acquainted with everyone who uses it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Others are using it on us. Can you understand why we prefer it stays down? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago That's kinda not his problem though permalink fedilink source parent [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -26 points 8 months ago (1 child) Who is using it on you? What does that mean? It hasn't been down all day, by the way, and none of my chats were deleted. I don't care what you prefer, mind your own business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Here's what I mean, in an excerpt from the Internet Manipulation section of Wikipedia's article on Disinformation. Internet manipulation is the use of online digital technologies, including algorithms, social bots, and automated scripts, for commercial, social, military, or political purposes. Internet and social media manipulation are the prime vehicles for spreading disinformation due to the importance of digital platforms for media consumption and everyday communication. When employed for political purposes, internet manipulation may be used to steer public opinion, polarise citizens, circulate conspiracy theories, and silence political dissidents. That's everybody's business. While we may weigh up the pros and cons of these tools, it's a start to recognise that there are significant social risks here that shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Oh you mean the thing that has existed long before chatGPT... that's chatGPT's fault now? You're a fucking joke. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* ChatGPT and other LLMs allow the manipulation to exist in an unprecedented volume. When you have actual people making posts, there are limits on how fast a person can make them and high costs to hire more people which limit resources. LLMs let you make a script and crank out thousand of posts in minutes, each unique and able to bypass spam filters more easily. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sbrodolino21@lemmy.world -13 points 8 months ago (3 children) Gotta love how the Reddit and now Lemmy community is constantly against every single kind of technological advancement and they constantly end up being wrong a few years down the line. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago technological advancement is supposed to be for the better. chatgpt is not advancement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com -3 points 8 months ago Chatgpt brings a lot of help and happiness to people you just need to be realistic and sensible with it permalink fedilink source parent [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Nothing but misinformation, hypocrisy and insults. This place is an echo chamber where not they're not used to being challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 5 points 8 months ago That's not really true. You came off combative with an attitude right from the start. You got smacked back down repeatedly. Certainly some of it is because of your opinions, but mostly it was because you're a jerk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) Aw looks like somebody's cranky because they can't ask chatbot how to wipe their butt. Hopefully they'll get your nanny online again soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -13 points 8 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] __ghost__@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago Oof what's your deal permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -13 points 8 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] __ghost__@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago Oof what's your deal permalink fedilink source parent
[+] leftist_lawyer@lemmy.today 21 points 8 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -40 points 8 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mad_djinn@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 child) its a matter of scale and social responsibility. you may have just accepted total environmental destruction as a basic fact of human existence. thats your own problem, more like your children's problem. but I would love to hear you defend data centers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -17 points 8 months ago* Fuck you hypocrite. How much pollution do you put in the sky driving or riding in cars? How many kids died making your smartphone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) ChatGPT must really be on the fritz. This dude is having to write these responses by himself lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -10 points 8 months ago Can't do better that huh? Pretty fucking pathetic, dude. permalink fedilink source parent [–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Harming the environment to warm your family or earn a living wage is one thing. Harming the environment to commit mass plagiarism is another. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -14 points 8 months ago* (1 child) "It's ok when I do it because I'm a fucking hypocrite". It's not "mass plagiarism", you fucking morons continue to display your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) What, then, do you call taking and manipulating the creations of many others and passing them off as your own? How are those of us taking a principled stance against theft the morons? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -40 points 8 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mad_djinn@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 child) its a matter of scale and social responsibility. you may have just accepted total environmental destruction as a basic fact of human existence. thats your own problem, more like your children's problem. but I would love to hear you defend data centers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -17 points 8 months ago* Fuck you hypocrite. How much pollution do you put in the sky driving or riding in cars? How many kids died making your smartphone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) ChatGPT must really be on the fritz. This dude is having to write these responses by himself lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -10 points 8 months ago Can't do better that huh? Pretty fucking pathetic, dude. permalink fedilink source parent [–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Harming the environment to warm your family or earn a living wage is one thing. Harming the environment to commit mass plagiarism is another. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -14 points 8 months ago* (1 child) "It's ok when I do it because I'm a fucking hypocrite". It's not "mass plagiarism", you fucking morons continue to display your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) What, then, do you call taking and manipulating the creations of many others and passing them off as your own? How are those of us taking a principled stance against theft the morons? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mad_djinn@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 child) its a matter of scale and social responsibility. you may have just accepted total environmental destruction as a basic fact of human existence. thats your own problem, more like your children's problem. but I would love to hear you defend data centers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -17 points 8 months ago* Fuck you hypocrite. How much pollution do you put in the sky driving or riding in cars? How many kids died making your smartphone? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -17 points 8 months ago* Fuck you hypocrite. How much pollution do you put in the sky driving or riding in cars? How many kids died making your smartphone? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) ChatGPT must really be on the fritz. This dude is having to write these responses by himself lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -10 points 8 months ago Can't do better that huh? Pretty fucking pathetic, dude. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -10 points 8 months ago Can't do better that huh? Pretty fucking pathetic, dude. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Harming the environment to warm your family or earn a living wage is one thing. Harming the environment to commit mass plagiarism is another. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -14 points 8 months ago* (1 child) "It's ok when I do it because I'm a fucking hypocrite". It's not "mass plagiarism", you fucking morons continue to display your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) What, then, do you call taking and manipulating the creations of many others and passing them off as your own? How are those of us taking a principled stance against theft the morons? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -14 points 8 months ago* (1 child) "It's ok when I do it because I'm a fucking hypocrite". It's not "mass plagiarism", you fucking morons continue to display your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) What, then, do you call taking and manipulating the creations of many others and passing them off as your own? How are those of us taking a principled stance against theft the morons? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) What, then, do you call taking and manipulating the creations of many others and passing them off as your own? How are those of us taking a principled stance against theft the morons? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago (1 child) Weird that you need a digital dumbass that's constantly wrong to help you out with your life... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -50 points 8 months ago (3 children) Couldn't be more obvious you don't know what you're talking about. It's hardly "constantly wrong". Childish hyperbole. Weird that you give a fuck what I do to improve my life, you arrogant prick. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago (1 child) The ectoplasm is angry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -30 points 8 months ago (1 child) Well maybe the ectoplasm should chill out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Yeah, you probably should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -15 points 8 months ago (1 child) Lol, any actual reason for calling me "ectoplasm" or did you pick a random word or something? Pointing out me being angry isn't answering the question I posed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re defending slop, reacting like the slime in Ghostbusters. I’d usually call you a slopvangelical LLM thumper, but I’m trying to branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) hear here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) If you think it's only ability is "making slop", that means you're ignorant and proud of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (1 child) No, I'm defending a useful tool. I don't use it to make "slop", I use it to help improve aspects of my life. Fuck me, right? How fucking dare I do that UNLESS it's by a method you approve? You're the ignorant one that thinks the only use is to make AI art or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago Dig up, mate. None of this AI grift is meant to be treated as serious. The very foundation it’s built upon is energised sand performing explicitly and purposefully inaccurate and imprecise calculations in an explosively cascading sequence. How better to describe the result of this than as slop? Much like any other religious adherence, I don’t care what you believe and subject yourself to personally, but my threshold for calling out and ridiculing is the same. When those beliefs and impositions are forced on non-believers without consent, which is what’s happening from this hype cycle. permalink fedilink source parent [+] wooffersyt@lemmings.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago These threads are always a massive circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent [–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago literally every time I gave one of these things a shot they gave me at least one blatantly wrong answer. considering by how animated you got from the get go about the mere idea of having it shut down, you're probably not the type that would notice. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -50 points 8 months ago (3 children) Couldn't be more obvious you don't know what you're talking about. It's hardly "constantly wrong". Childish hyperbole. Weird that you give a fuck what I do to improve my life, you arrogant prick. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago (1 child) The ectoplasm is angry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -30 points 8 months ago (1 child) Well maybe the ectoplasm should chill out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Yeah, you probably should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -15 points 8 months ago (1 child) Lol, any actual reason for calling me "ectoplasm" or did you pick a random word or something? Pointing out me being angry isn't answering the question I posed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re defending slop, reacting like the slime in Ghostbusters. I’d usually call you a slopvangelical LLM thumper, but I’m trying to branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) hear here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) If you think it's only ability is "making slop", that means you're ignorant and proud of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (1 child) No, I'm defending a useful tool. I don't use it to make "slop", I use it to help improve aspects of my life. Fuck me, right? How fucking dare I do that UNLESS it's by a method you approve? You're the ignorant one that thinks the only use is to make AI art or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago Dig up, mate. None of this AI grift is meant to be treated as serious. The very foundation it’s built upon is energised sand performing explicitly and purposefully inaccurate and imprecise calculations in an explosively cascading sequence. How better to describe the result of this than as slop? Much like any other religious adherence, I don’t care what you believe and subject yourself to personally, but my threshold for calling out and ridiculing is the same. When those beliefs and impositions are forced on non-believers without consent, which is what’s happening from this hype cycle. permalink fedilink source parent [+] wooffersyt@lemmings.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago These threads are always a massive circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent [–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago literally every time I gave one of these things a shot they gave me at least one blatantly wrong answer. considering by how animated you got from the get go about the mere idea of having it shut down, you're probably not the type that would notice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago (1 child) The ectoplasm is angry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -30 points 8 months ago (1 child) Well maybe the ectoplasm should chill out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Yeah, you probably should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -15 points 8 months ago (1 child) Lol, any actual reason for calling me "ectoplasm" or did you pick a random word or something? Pointing out me being angry isn't answering the question I posed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re defending slop, reacting like the slime in Ghostbusters. I’d usually call you a slopvangelical LLM thumper, but I’m trying to branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) hear here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) If you think it's only ability is "making slop", that means you're ignorant and proud of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (1 child) No, I'm defending a useful tool. I don't use it to make "slop", I use it to help improve aspects of my life. Fuck me, right? How fucking dare I do that UNLESS it's by a method you approve? You're the ignorant one that thinks the only use is to make AI art or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago Dig up, mate. None of this AI grift is meant to be treated as serious. The very foundation it’s built upon is energised sand performing explicitly and purposefully inaccurate and imprecise calculations in an explosively cascading sequence. How better to describe the result of this than as slop? Much like any other religious adherence, I don’t care what you believe and subject yourself to personally, but my threshold for calling out and ridiculing is the same. When those beliefs and impositions are forced on non-believers without consent, which is what’s happening from this hype cycle. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -30 points 8 months ago (1 child) Well maybe the ectoplasm should chill out permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Yeah, you probably should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -15 points 8 months ago (1 child) Lol, any actual reason for calling me "ectoplasm" or did you pick a random word or something? Pointing out me being angry isn't answering the question I posed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re defending slop, reacting like the slime in Ghostbusters. I’d usually call you a slopvangelical LLM thumper, but I’m trying to branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) hear here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) If you think it's only ability is "making slop", that means you're ignorant and proud of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (1 child) No, I'm defending a useful tool. I don't use it to make "slop", I use it to help improve aspects of my life. Fuck me, right? How fucking dare I do that UNLESS it's by a method you approve? You're the ignorant one that thinks the only use is to make AI art or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago Dig up, mate. None of this AI grift is meant to be treated as serious. The very foundation it’s built upon is energised sand performing explicitly and purposefully inaccurate and imprecise calculations in an explosively cascading sequence. How better to describe the result of this than as slop? Much like any other religious adherence, I don’t care what you believe and subject yourself to personally, but my threshold for calling out and ridiculing is the same. When those beliefs and impositions are forced on non-believers without consent, which is what’s happening from this hype cycle. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Yeah, you probably should. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -15 points 8 months ago (1 child) Lol, any actual reason for calling me "ectoplasm" or did you pick a random word or something? Pointing out me being angry isn't answering the question I posed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re defending slop, reacting like the slime in Ghostbusters. I’d usually call you a slopvangelical LLM thumper, but I’m trying to branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) hear here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) If you think it's only ability is "making slop", that means you're ignorant and proud of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (1 child) No, I'm defending a useful tool. I don't use it to make "slop", I use it to help improve aspects of my life. Fuck me, right? How fucking dare I do that UNLESS it's by a method you approve? You're the ignorant one that thinks the only use is to make AI art or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago Dig up, mate. None of this AI grift is meant to be treated as serious. The very foundation it’s built upon is energised sand performing explicitly and purposefully inaccurate and imprecise calculations in an explosively cascading sequence. How better to describe the result of this than as slop? Much like any other religious adherence, I don’t care what you believe and subject yourself to personally, but my threshold for calling out and ridiculing is the same. When those beliefs and impositions are forced on non-believers without consent, which is what’s happening from this hype cycle. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -15 points 8 months ago (1 child) Lol, any actual reason for calling me "ectoplasm" or did you pick a random word or something? Pointing out me being angry isn't answering the question I posed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re defending slop, reacting like the slime in Ghostbusters. I’d usually call you a slopvangelical LLM thumper, but I’m trying to branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) hear here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) If you think it's only ability is "making slop", that means you're ignorant and proud of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (1 child) No, I'm defending a useful tool. I don't use it to make "slop", I use it to help improve aspects of my life. Fuck me, right? How fucking dare I do that UNLESS it's by a method you approve? You're the ignorant one that thinks the only use is to make AI art or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago Dig up, mate. None of this AI grift is meant to be treated as serious. The very foundation it’s built upon is energised sand performing explicitly and purposefully inaccurate and imprecise calculations in an explosively cascading sequence. How better to describe the result of this than as slop? Much like any other religious adherence, I don’t care what you believe and subject yourself to personally, but my threshold for calling out and ridiculing is the same. When those beliefs and impositions are forced on non-believers without consent, which is what’s happening from this hype cycle. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (2 children) You’re defending slop, reacting like the slime in Ghostbusters. I’d usually call you a slopvangelical LLM thumper, but I’m trying to branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) hear here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) If you think it's only ability is "making slop", that means you're ignorant and proud of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (1 child) No, I'm defending a useful tool. I don't use it to make "slop", I use it to help improve aspects of my life. Fuck me, right? How fucking dare I do that UNLESS it's by a method you approve? You're the ignorant one that thinks the only use is to make AI art or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago Dig up, mate. None of this AI grift is meant to be treated as serious. The very foundation it’s built upon is energised sand performing explicitly and purposefully inaccurate and imprecise calculations in an explosively cascading sequence. How better to describe the result of this than as slop? Much like any other religious adherence, I don’t care what you believe and subject yourself to personally, but my threshold for calling out and ridiculing is the same. When those beliefs and impositions are forced on non-believers without consent, which is what’s happening from this hype cycle. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) hear here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) If you think it's only ability is "making slop", that means you're ignorant and proud of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) If you think it's only ability is "making slop", that means you're ignorant and proud of it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 point 8 months ago It's also really good at making humans dumb. Can you tell us more about that aspect? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago* (1 child) No, I'm defending a useful tool. I don't use it to make "slop", I use it to help improve aspects of my life. Fuck me, right? How fucking dare I do that UNLESS it's by a method you approve? You're the ignorant one that thinks the only use is to make AI art or whatever. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago Dig up, mate. None of this AI grift is meant to be treated as serious. The very foundation it’s built upon is energised sand performing explicitly and purposefully inaccurate and imprecise calculations in an explosively cascading sequence. How better to describe the result of this than as slop? Much like any other religious adherence, I don’t care what you believe and subject yourself to personally, but my threshold for calling out and ridiculing is the same. When those beliefs and impositions are forced on non-believers without consent, which is what’s happening from this hype cycle. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago Dig up, mate. None of this AI grift is meant to be treated as serious. The very foundation it’s built upon is energised sand performing explicitly and purposefully inaccurate and imprecise calculations in an explosively cascading sequence. How better to describe the result of this than as slop? Much like any other religious adherence, I don’t care what you believe and subject yourself to personally, but my threshold for calling out and ridiculing is the same. When those beliefs and impositions are forced on non-believers without consent, which is what’s happening from this hype cycle. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] wooffersyt@lemmings.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago These threads are always a massive circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago These threads are always a massive circle jerk permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago literally every time I gave one of these things a shot they gave me at least one blatantly wrong answer. considering by how animated you got from the get go about the mere idea of having it shut down, you're probably not the type that would notice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago whats the matter? need the computer to think for you? need it to fuck your wife? is babys toy broken? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) Tell the people using it ON us to stop then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -23 points 8 months ago (1 child) I'm not using it ON you. Also, I don't control other people. Nor am I acquainted with everyone who uses it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Others are using it on us. Can you understand why we prefer it stays down? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago That's kinda not his problem though permalink fedilink source parent [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -26 points 8 months ago (1 child) Who is using it on you? What does that mean? It hasn't been down all day, by the way, and none of my chats were deleted. I don't care what you prefer, mind your own business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Here's what I mean, in an excerpt from the Internet Manipulation section of Wikipedia's article on Disinformation. Internet manipulation is the use of online digital technologies, including algorithms, social bots, and automated scripts, for commercial, social, military, or political purposes. Internet and social media manipulation are the prime vehicles for spreading disinformation due to the importance of digital platforms for media consumption and everyday communication. When employed for political purposes, internet manipulation may be used to steer public opinion, polarise citizens, circulate conspiracy theories, and silence political dissidents. That's everybody's business. While we may weigh up the pros and cons of these tools, it's a start to recognise that there are significant social risks here that shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Oh you mean the thing that has existed long before chatGPT... that's chatGPT's fault now? You're a fucking joke. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* ChatGPT and other LLMs allow the manipulation to exist in an unprecedented volume. When you have actual people making posts, there are limits on how fast a person can make them and high costs to hire more people which limit resources. LLMs let you make a script and crank out thousand of posts in minutes, each unique and able to bypass spam filters more easily. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -23 points 8 months ago (1 child) I'm not using it ON you. Also, I don't control other people. Nor am I acquainted with everyone who uses it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Others are using it on us. Can you understand why we prefer it stays down? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago That's kinda not his problem though permalink fedilink source parent [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -26 points 8 months ago (1 child) Who is using it on you? What does that mean? It hasn't been down all day, by the way, and none of my chats were deleted. I don't care what you prefer, mind your own business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Here's what I mean, in an excerpt from the Internet Manipulation section of Wikipedia's article on Disinformation. Internet manipulation is the use of online digital technologies, including algorithms, social bots, and automated scripts, for commercial, social, military, or political purposes. Internet and social media manipulation are the prime vehicles for spreading disinformation due to the importance of digital platforms for media consumption and everyday communication. When employed for political purposes, internet manipulation may be used to steer public opinion, polarise citizens, circulate conspiracy theories, and silence political dissidents. That's everybody's business. While we may weigh up the pros and cons of these tools, it's a start to recognise that there are significant social risks here that shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Oh you mean the thing that has existed long before chatGPT... that's chatGPT's fault now? You're a fucking joke. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* ChatGPT and other LLMs allow the manipulation to exist in an unprecedented volume. When you have actual people making posts, there are limits on how fast a person can make them and high costs to hire more people which limit resources. LLMs let you make a script and crank out thousand of posts in minutes, each unique and able to bypass spam filters more easily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Others are using it on us. Can you understand why we prefer it stays down? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago That's kinda not his problem though permalink fedilink source parent [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -26 points 8 months ago (1 child) Who is using it on you? What does that mean? It hasn't been down all day, by the way, and none of my chats were deleted. I don't care what you prefer, mind your own business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Here's what I mean, in an excerpt from the Internet Manipulation section of Wikipedia's article on Disinformation. Internet manipulation is the use of online digital technologies, including algorithms, social bots, and automated scripts, for commercial, social, military, or political purposes. Internet and social media manipulation are the prime vehicles for spreading disinformation due to the importance of digital platforms for media consumption and everyday communication. When employed for political purposes, internet manipulation may be used to steer public opinion, polarise citizens, circulate conspiracy theories, and silence political dissidents. That's everybody's business. While we may weigh up the pros and cons of these tools, it's a start to recognise that there are significant social risks here that shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Oh you mean the thing that has existed long before chatGPT... that's chatGPT's fault now? You're a fucking joke. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* ChatGPT and other LLMs allow the manipulation to exist in an unprecedented volume. When you have actual people making posts, there are limits on how fast a person can make them and high costs to hire more people which limit resources. LLMs let you make a script and crank out thousand of posts in minutes, each unique and able to bypass spam filters more easily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago That's kinda not his problem though permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -26 points 8 months ago (1 child) Who is using it on you? What does that mean? It hasn't been down all day, by the way, and none of my chats were deleted. I don't care what you prefer, mind your own business. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Here's what I mean, in an excerpt from the Internet Manipulation section of Wikipedia's article on Disinformation. Internet manipulation is the use of online digital technologies, including algorithms, social bots, and automated scripts, for commercial, social, military, or political purposes. Internet and social media manipulation are the prime vehicles for spreading disinformation due to the importance of digital platforms for media consumption and everyday communication. When employed for political purposes, internet manipulation may be used to steer public opinion, polarise citizens, circulate conspiracy theories, and silence political dissidents. That's everybody's business. While we may weigh up the pros and cons of these tools, it's a start to recognise that there are significant social risks here that shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Oh you mean the thing that has existed long before chatGPT... that's chatGPT's fault now? You're a fucking joke. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* ChatGPT and other LLMs allow the manipulation to exist in an unprecedented volume. When you have actual people making posts, there are limits on how fast a person can make them and high costs to hire more people which limit resources. LLMs let you make a script and crank out thousand of posts in minutes, each unique and able to bypass spam filters more easily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 13 points 8 months ago (1 child) Here's what I mean, in an excerpt from the Internet Manipulation section of Wikipedia's article on Disinformation. Internet manipulation is the use of online digital technologies, including algorithms, social bots, and automated scripts, for commercial, social, military, or political purposes. Internet and social media manipulation are the prime vehicles for spreading disinformation due to the importance of digital platforms for media consumption and everyday communication. When employed for political purposes, internet manipulation may be used to steer public opinion, polarise citizens, circulate conspiracy theories, and silence political dissidents. That's everybody's business. While we may weigh up the pros and cons of these tools, it's a start to recognise that there are significant social risks here that shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Oh you mean the thing that has existed long before chatGPT... that's chatGPT's fault now? You're a fucking joke. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* ChatGPT and other LLMs allow the manipulation to exist in an unprecedented volume. When you have actual people making posts, there are limits on how fast a person can make them and high costs to hire more people which limit resources. LLMs let you make a script and crank out thousand of posts in minutes, each unique and able to bypass spam filters more easily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 child) Oh you mean the thing that has existed long before chatGPT... that's chatGPT's fault now? You're a fucking joke. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* ChatGPT and other LLMs allow the manipulation to exist in an unprecedented volume. When you have actual people making posts, there are limits on how fast a person can make them and high costs to hire more people which limit resources. LLMs let you make a script and crank out thousand of posts in minutes, each unique and able to bypass spam filters more easily. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PaintedSnail@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* ChatGPT and other LLMs allow the manipulation to exist in an unprecedented volume. When you have actual people making posts, there are limits on how fast a person can make them and high costs to hire more people which limit resources. LLMs let you make a script and crank out thousand of posts in minutes, each unique and able to bypass spam filters more easily. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sbrodolino21@lemmy.world -13 points 8 months ago (3 children) Gotta love how the Reddit and now Lemmy community is constantly against every single kind of technological advancement and they constantly end up being wrong a few years down the line. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago technological advancement is supposed to be for the better. chatgpt is not advancement. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com -3 points 8 months ago Chatgpt brings a lot of help and happiness to people you just need to be realistic and sensible with it permalink fedilink source parent [+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Nothing but misinformation, hypocrisy and insults. This place is an echo chamber where not they're not used to being challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 5 points 8 months ago That's not really true. You came off combative with an attitude right from the start. You got smacked back down repeatedly. Certainly some of it is because of your opinions, but mostly it was because you're a jerk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago technological advancement is supposed to be for the better. chatgpt is not advancement. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com -3 points 8 months ago Chatgpt brings a lot of help and happiness to people you just need to be realistic and sensible with it permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world -6 points 8 months ago (1 child) Nothing but misinformation, hypocrisy and insults. This place is an echo chamber where not they're not used to being challenged. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 5 points 8 months ago That's not really true. You came off combative with an attitude right from the start. You got smacked back down repeatedly. Certainly some of it is because of your opinions, but mostly it was because you're a jerk. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 5 points 8 months ago That's not really true. You came off combative with an attitude right from the start. You got smacked back down repeatedly. Certainly some of it is because of your opinions, but mostly it was because you're a jerk. permalink fedilink source parent