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Engineer who can't function without AI (youtube.com)
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[–] 18 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

They should. An engineering degree is literally a Bachelor of Science.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I really don't get the point of gatekeeping a job title.

    There's no official license or certification for software engineering in the US, so anyone claiming you have to meet some requirement to call yourself a software engineer is factually wrong. Now, pretty much every tech company calls anyone who writes code some form of engineer, so much so that SDE/SWE is a pretty universal acronym.

    I really don't care personally, and I don't go around grouping myself in with other engineering fields. But for the past 7 or so years, my actual job title has had the word "engineer" in it despite the fact that I don't have a Bachelor's degree. I feel like jumping through hoops to say, "well, my official title is Software Engineer, but technically I'm a programmer" is just pedantic and probably more confusing for most people.

    I could see an argument for differentiating between those who participate heavily in the design and evolution of an entire codebase (as opposed to those who just pull tickets and write code), but even that has kind of just evolved into the junior/mid/senior/etc terminology.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    The P.Eng society is working on this, so that only actual engineers can use the title engineer. Software “engineers” should just be called code monkeys.

    It many countries, like Germany, engineer is a protected designation, just like doctor.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    The P.Eng society is working on this, so that only actual engineers can use the title engineer.

    Which is why I specified I was talking about the US. Also, fair. If the term ever actually has a clear set of requirements, then of course it would be incorrect to claim the title without meeting those requirements.

    Software “engineers” should just be called code monkeys.

    I hope you realize how elitist this comes across. I've worked with a lot of contractors, web developers, etc. that have a strong understanding of software development and are able to author software really well. I would be so embarrassed if they knew I referred to them as "code monkeys". Something tells me that you're the kind of person I'm very grateful to have never had the misfortune of working with.

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