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Dell confirms 2025 is not the year of Windows 11, as users just don't want to dump Windows 10 (www.windowslatest.com)
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[–] 17 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

Lmao tbf this is on a work computer where I don't have that kind of control.

I still have 10 on the home PC and I get closer and closer to installing Linux on it every time I tinker with my raspberry pi. That said, I fear the same issues will come up. The second something doesn't work right, I'm gonna have to turn to hunting down forum posts with issues similar to mine but slightly different and randomly applying fixes I don't truly understand until something works. Not that this is all that dissimilar to when windows 10 breaks, but that happens far less often than it does with the Linux distros I've used.

Then comes the concern that I won't be able to find drivers for the hardware I have, or if I upgrade hardware that it'll be much harder to get drivers for newer stuff... I'd love to ditch Microsoft, but Linux, while much better than a decade ago, is still a shlep to use

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I mean here's the comparison:

    With Linux, you select the right tool to the job. The ones given to you out the gate depending on what you install (Mint vs Arch, for instance) might be enough for all your needs, and you get to pick and choose starting gear. If you need more tools after the fact, you have a software center to install flatpacks for anything generic you may want, and the terminal lets you go wild if there's anything special not covered you need modified. There's manual pages, and the forms are last resort for most.

    On Windows, you are given a generic toolset. Usually it works, but sometimes they just break for no discernable reason. You can call Microsoft for support, but good luck talking to a human. You can't pick a different starting toolset, and while you can install software (by using a web browser and hoping you don't get phished), it's difficult to change underlying components without getting blocked by the OS or breaking a core function. Windows forums are quite a wasteland, and almost nothing is documented for the user.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    That's true and it makes sense.

    But the frequency of issues requiring extra work is far higher with Linux than Windows, in my experience, and it's often a much longer process to fix with Linux.

    With Linux, I often run into issues that I'll patiently tinker with for hours, but eventually run into a wall, resolve to address another day. And I'll learn a lot about computers along the way! That's fine and even fun when it's my self-hosted recipe app (which apparently simply cannot run on a Raspberry Pi except for all the people who said they got it working on their machine yet their solutions don't work on mine), but it's far more frustrating when it's an application for something more basic like music or video playback, word processing or spreadsheets or internet browsing.

    Of course all the same kind of problems can occur on a Windows machine, but, at least in my life, it happens less than once a year as opposed to Linux where it seems to happen once per "new thing" I try to do. Some day I'll do it. But right now, Windows 10 "just works" in a way that's more valuable.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    There's a pretty good chance the Linux issues you're having are actually Raspberry Pi issues. I've had to do so much more tinkering with SBCs to get things to work compared to x86 systems

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    I thought that too, at least when I was trying all this on my Pi Zero 2 W but I think the 5 is x64 innit?

    I take on projects on my weeks off, tho, so maybe I'll set up a dual boot during my Q1 week off and take it from there.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I'm gonna have to turn to hunting down forum posts

    The real strength of Linux is you can go on the forums and get a flood of enthusiastic help from people who know what they’re talking about, no matter how basic the problem. Every Microsoft help thread I’ve seen is fifty people saying “I have this exact problem!” and one rep saying “This is a known problem. Thread closed.”

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Don't forget the first response that always gives the steps to solve a simpler version of that issue, almost like the responses are being copy/pasted from a guide by people who barely understand anything about it themselves.

    Plus these days the number of solutions that refer to some setting that no longer exists in the location it did at the time the solution was written.

    Meanwhile on Linux, I haven't even had to search as much for solutions. Yesterday I installed a new desktop that I've never used before (KDE-Plasma) and was quickly able to figure out the changes I wanted to make because it's designed to be discoverable and obvious. Whereas I'd say that Windows seems designed to make people either feel tempted to pay for a solution or give up and just do it the way MS wants.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Just pick a distro and a small cheap ssd, and make sure you use btrfs and enable snapshotting schedule from day one. Then If you get in that situation its super easy to flip back to an earlier state.

    You will absolutely me counter situations that force you to investigate a bit, but as you use it those will become less frequent.

    Stay in the Linux environment as long as you can take it. If you get frustrated hop back in windows a bit until you get the hankering to try again.

    Worst case scenario is you're out ~20 USD. (Though I understand that's too much for some)

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