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Thank Mozilla for Killing Localization on Support Mozilla (And Replacing Human Contributions With AI Bots) (www.quippd.com)
submitted 8 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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TL;DR: Mozilla is killing localization on Support Mozilla, overwriting articles written by humans with machine generated translations. Although Mozilla knows that their AI doesn’t localize or adhere to style guides, Mozilla is going live with it anyway. I thank locale leaders and localizers for their tireless efforts. Locale leaders seem to be obviated by AI, and Mozilla has nothing to say about it.

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[–] 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Is it anti Firefox progranda to literally criticize them for reopening human contributed content with lesser quality AI generated one?

Your response to that criticism is to bring up another topic (Firefox being open source) and calling everyone idiots?

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Yes they are, because I bet this, as always, is a complete nothing burger, just like the previous 10 times the past year I've seen similar baseless attacks on Firefox.

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  • [+] [S] -6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    You can't tell if this one is baseless or not?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Your source is a blog with a stupid anecdote from Japan as its main feature. Why should I take that seriously?

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Why did Mozilla staff take it seriously enough to immediately offer to get on a call with the writer of the stupid anecdote?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Because Mozilla isn't the scumbag company the blog tries to paint them as.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So we should take it seriously.

    Thanks for clarifying!

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    "I hear yoasif is always trying to fuck the neighbor's dog."

    "No, that's stupid, of course I'm not."

    "Oh so you're acknowledging it? Guess that means we should take the claim seriously!"

    🙄

    Ngl, I haven't read the article, I'm not defending or talking about Mozilla. But holy shit was that stupid logic.

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  • [+] [S] -6 points 8 months ago

    The reason it works is because Mozilla staff isn't going to offer to call any random person with a "stupid anecdote".

    EDIT: FWIW, your logic is broken: while your imagined yoasif denies the claim, that differs from what Baffalox does in reality - they say "yes, but". Imagined yoasif just said "no."

    Wouldn't have been critical of the form of your logic, but I mean -- you said my logic was stupid. I'm not sure you understood my logic.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I have worked both as a professional translator in works not related to software and as a software developer, and also have participaded on open source public project translated by the community with weblate.

    There is NO WAY at all that the AI translations are worse. DeepL has been powering your human translators pretty much since it released, and LLMs are way better at translating than the average Joe.

    Most of those weblate managed translations I mentioned were absolute dogshit. Done by humans, done with passion and good intention (most of the time, some of the languages we did know less about had stuff that had nothing to do with the original texts).

    Like, people assume since they speak a language that they are able to translate that language and that is not true.

    Unless Mozilla had full time, proper translators working, the quality con only increase by using AI.

    And if they did, they can sack most of the team, leave one per language, and have them review the translations, and they would save massive amounts of money. And like it or not, open source needs money to run.

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