▲ 874 ▼ Haven't these MFS been saying they won in a landslide have a mandate since January? Or am I just imagining things? (lemmy.world) submitted 9 months ago by AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 184 comments fedilink hide all child comments Ideally, I'd love for Dems to just start taking credit for everything MAGA brags about. Since apparently the Republicans aren't in charge.
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago (2 children) For the unaware, the Democrat leadership are asking that the rate hikes for US health insurance are reversed, some individual US senators might have slightly different demands but the GOP need 7 more votes to pass a budget resolution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (1 child) See this is what I don't understand. They need 7 more votes to enter a continuence, not a budget. If they wanted to re-open the government they could have actually wrote a budget, and reconciled that budget, using only 51 votes for all the portions closed down.. then argued about the portions they can't get passed (cutting health care). There is nothing that the Democrats can do to block an actual budget reconciliation being done. Stop kicking the can down the road with a "continuence" and draw up a budget. This whole thing seems to me like they can't get Republicans to agree on a budget, to get 51 votes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 child) Theres a distinction between a "fiscal budget" and a "spending bill" I guess. The fiscal budget for the year has already been decided. There is no Fiscal Budget 2: Skidaddle Rougarou. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Both can be reconciled. Continuences can't be. Aka, they haven't made an finalized measure for this, and thus keep kicking it forward with continuences permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Is there precedent for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (1 child) SNAP, Medicare, Medicade, are all funded through standard budgets as far as I know. So precedent would be the Inflation Reduction Act. That passed through reconciliation August 2022. I don't see how SNAP or Medical budgets could be stopped right now without having undergone a budget change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right... Maybe the GOP can't pass the Byrd test, lmao. Like an addict can't piss clean, a Republican can't lower the budget expenditure. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children) No idea what any of this means. Rate hikes good or bad? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] madjo@feddit.nl 18 points 9 months ago (1 child) A rate hike for the health care insurance means your monthly health care insurance costs will increase. It's up to you to decide if that's good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) Ok that makes sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drhodl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) People actually will lose cover, because the rates are going up in the order of 100% or more, for low income people. It's not a small increase. Many will not be able to afford it, so, effectively, the GOP are removing the healthcare from 10-20 million people.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Are poor people even considered people? conservatives permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago Has any leftist attempted to create engagement with these people to inform them? Like if I gave you ten minutes, could you get maybe 5 pieces of shareable content that addresses any of this. Now articles or opinions pieces. Like a random marvel Facebook group that actually posts political memes all day permalink fedilink source parent [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) It means people have to pay more in order to get healthcare. So, definitely bad. The DNC are trying to prevent that bad situation from worsening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (1 child) See this is what I don't understand. They need 7 more votes to enter a continuence, not a budget. If they wanted to re-open the government they could have actually wrote a budget, and reconciled that budget, using only 51 votes for all the portions closed down.. then argued about the portions they can't get passed (cutting health care). There is nothing that the Democrats can do to block an actual budget reconciliation being done. Stop kicking the can down the road with a "continuence" and draw up a budget. This whole thing seems to me like they can't get Republicans to agree on a budget, to get 51 votes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 child) Theres a distinction between a "fiscal budget" and a "spending bill" I guess. The fiscal budget for the year has already been decided. There is no Fiscal Budget 2: Skidaddle Rougarou. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Both can be reconciled. Continuences can't be. Aka, they haven't made an finalized measure for this, and thus keep kicking it forward with continuences permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Is there precedent for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (1 child) SNAP, Medicare, Medicade, are all funded through standard budgets as far as I know. So precedent would be the Inflation Reduction Act. That passed through reconciliation August 2022. I don't see how SNAP or Medical budgets could be stopped right now without having undergone a budget change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right... Maybe the GOP can't pass the Byrd test, lmao. Like an addict can't piss clean, a Republican can't lower the budget expenditure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 child) Theres a distinction between a "fiscal budget" and a "spending bill" I guess. The fiscal budget for the year has already been decided. There is no Fiscal Budget 2: Skidaddle Rougarou. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Both can be reconciled. Continuences can't be. Aka, they haven't made an finalized measure for this, and thus keep kicking it forward with continuences permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Is there precedent for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (1 child) SNAP, Medicare, Medicade, are all funded through standard budgets as far as I know. So precedent would be the Inflation Reduction Act. That passed through reconciliation August 2022. I don't see how SNAP or Medical budgets could be stopped right now without having undergone a budget change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right... Maybe the GOP can't pass the Byrd test, lmao. Like an addict can't piss clean, a Republican can't lower the budget expenditure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 child) Both can be reconciled. Continuences can't be. Aka, they haven't made an finalized measure for this, and thus keep kicking it forward with continuences permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Is there precedent for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (1 child) SNAP, Medicare, Medicade, are all funded through standard budgets as far as I know. So precedent would be the Inflation Reduction Act. That passed through reconciliation August 2022. I don't see how SNAP or Medical budgets could be stopped right now without having undergone a budget change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right... Maybe the GOP can't pass the Byrd test, lmao. Like an addict can't piss clean, a Republican can't lower the budget expenditure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Is there precedent for that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (1 child) SNAP, Medicare, Medicade, are all funded through standard budgets as far as I know. So precedent would be the Inflation Reduction Act. That passed through reconciliation August 2022. I don't see how SNAP or Medical budgets could be stopped right now without having undergone a budget change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right... Maybe the GOP can't pass the Byrd test, lmao. Like an addict can't piss clean, a Republican can't lower the budget expenditure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (1 child) SNAP, Medicare, Medicade, are all funded through standard budgets as far as I know. So precedent would be the Inflation Reduction Act. That passed through reconciliation August 2022. I don't see how SNAP or Medical budgets could be stopped right now without having undergone a budget change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right... Maybe the GOP can't pass the Byrd test, lmao. Like an addict can't piss clean, a Republican can't lower the budget expenditure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago You're right... Maybe the GOP can't pass the Byrd test, lmao. Like an addict can't piss clean, a Republican can't lower the budget expenditure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children) No idea what any of this means. Rate hikes good or bad? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] madjo@feddit.nl 18 points 9 months ago (1 child) A rate hike for the health care insurance means your monthly health care insurance costs will increase. It's up to you to decide if that's good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) Ok that makes sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drhodl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) People actually will lose cover, because the rates are going up in the order of 100% or more, for low income people. It's not a small increase. Many will not be able to afford it, so, effectively, the GOP are removing the healthcare from 10-20 million people.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Are poor people even considered people? conservatives permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago Has any leftist attempted to create engagement with these people to inform them? Like if I gave you ten minutes, could you get maybe 5 pieces of shareable content that addresses any of this. Now articles or opinions pieces. Like a random marvel Facebook group that actually posts political memes all day permalink fedilink source parent [–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) It means people have to pay more in order to get healthcare. So, definitely bad. The DNC are trying to prevent that bad situation from worsening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] madjo@feddit.nl 18 points 9 months ago (1 child) A rate hike for the health care insurance means your monthly health care insurance costs will increase. It's up to you to decide if that's good or bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) Ok that makes sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drhodl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) People actually will lose cover, because the rates are going up in the order of 100% or more, for low income people. It's not a small increase. Many will not be able to afford it, so, effectively, the GOP are removing the healthcare from 10-20 million people.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Are poor people even considered people? conservatives permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago Has any leftist attempted to create engagement with these people to inform them? Like if I gave you ten minutes, could you get maybe 5 pieces of shareable content that addresses any of this. Now articles or opinions pieces. Like a random marvel Facebook group that actually posts political memes all day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 child) Ok that makes sense permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] drhodl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) People actually will lose cover, because the rates are going up in the order of 100% or more, for low income people. It's not a small increase. Many will not be able to afford it, so, effectively, the GOP are removing the healthcare from 10-20 million people.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Are poor people even considered people? conservatives permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago Has any leftist attempted to create engagement with these people to inform them? Like if I gave you ten minutes, could you get maybe 5 pieces of shareable content that addresses any of this. Now articles or opinions pieces. Like a random marvel Facebook group that actually posts political memes all day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children) People actually will lose cover, because the rates are going up in the order of 100% or more, for low income people. It's not a small increase. Many will not be able to afford it, so, effectively, the GOP are removing the healthcare from 10-20 million people.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Are poor people even considered people? conservatives permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago Has any leftist attempted to create engagement with these people to inform them? Like if I gave you ten minutes, could you get maybe 5 pieces of shareable content that addresses any of this. Now articles or opinions pieces. Like a random marvel Facebook group that actually posts political memes all day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago Are poor people even considered people? conservatives permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago Has any leftist attempted to create engagement with these people to inform them? Like if I gave you ten minutes, could you get maybe 5 pieces of shareable content that addresses any of this. Now articles or opinions pieces. Like a random marvel Facebook group that actually posts political memes all day permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) It means people have to pay more in order to get healthcare. So, definitely bad. The DNC are trying to prevent that bad situation from worsening. permalink fedilink source parent
