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The Perfect Private Messenger (lemmy.ml)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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What's the closest thing we have to a perfect private messanger?

In my mind the perfect private messanger is both completely secure, and also completely anonymous.

All the mainstream messengers can pretty much ensure the contents of the message will not be revealed....but that is not good enough. I want to be able to deploy and establish a completely anonymous AND private channel of communication on a dime without having to jump through extreme operational security hoops.

Does it really exist?

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[–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

I would still like to understand why Jami is never mentioned in these posts. I'm not aware of any technical or security objections, and the less I hear about Jami, the more concerned I become about using it.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You can't have big groups in Jami, it's limited to a small number of participants (can't remember how many).

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah. SimpleX has a similar problem, because it's basically creating a bunch of 1:1 connections between everyone to preserve anonymity - IIRC (I freely admit I could be misremembering this). As I understood, it's a decent limit, though - more than the 7-12 friend/family group you'd reasonably trust in a chat group.

    I did not consider this a blocker - who's using encrypted chat for large groups? Large group chats are fundamentally insecure; is the use case about anonymity, not encryption?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Sure, encryption may not be important for large groups but it can happen that it may be needed. If I were to make a group with my coworkers, I'd want that to be E2EE. On top of that, even without E2EE, you need good UX to host discussion groups for various topics, and Jami is simply not there yet.

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