Another round of terminations, combined with previous layoffs and departures, has reduced the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention workforce by about 3,000 people since January.

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[–] -5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

Except that vaccines partially work because of herd immunity. My kid is and was vaccinated against whooping cough, but enough fucktards here in Texas refuse vaccines that it is spreading and he caught it despite being vaccinated. He was ultimately fine because he was 14 with a good immune system, but pertussis can be fatal for some patients, especially those too young to get vaccinated.

You don't sound like your smart enough to understand this explanation, but at least I tried.

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  • [+] -10 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    I have a degree in pharmacology and biochemistry. Back off.

    vaccines partially work because of herd immunity

    Yeah? I bet you're an expert.

    your smart

    The irony.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    They shouldn't have made a personal attack like that, but they're not wrong. Herd immunity is needed. Individual vaccination, while helpful, isn't fool proof. Especially for highly infectious diseases like measles.

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Idk, my advisor, a PhD in immunology, argued that the evidence for herd immunity in vaccine effectiveness was a bit shaky. I think I'm gonna listen to her rather than a random commenter with a personal agenda to Prove Me Wrong like that commenter.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    I'm not sure what you mean by 'personal agenda.' I'm legitimately trying to have a productive conversation so please don't take anything said as a personal affront. We're just trying to express the importance of herd immunity as it stands from expert consensus on the subject.

    If you have any studies on herd immunity not being as important, I would love to read through them.

    I understand why you trust your advisor. I'm lucky enough to be friends with someone who was a professor of infectious disease, has a PhD in virology and created a vaccine. They are my go to for anything on the subject matter. Again, anything you can share on the topic is greatly appreciated.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    If you actually studied this science, then you should have learned not to listen to any one person's opinion. There is no shortage of Nobel laureates saying stupid things for which they know nothing about.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Non scholarly https://abcnews.go.com/Health/measles-breakthrough-cases-vaccination-important/story?id=120276354

    scholarly https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9413104/

    Given 97% efficacy of measles vaccine, how do you explain many countries have had measles elimination for so long?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I don't think you were following the thread closely. I'm not arguing against the efficacy of vaccines. There's exactly one sentence about herd immunity in your second link, and even then I'm only sharing the opinion of someone I know.

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