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4chan fined $26K for refusing to assess risks under UK Online Safety Act (arstechnica.com)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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If 4chan continues to ignore Ofcom, the forum could be blocked in the UK. And 4chan could face even bigger fines totaling about $23 million or 10 percent of 4chan’s worldwide turnover, whichever is higher. 4chan also faces potential arrest and/or "imprisonment for a term of up to two years," the lawsuit said.

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[–] 111 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If you're ok with this then imagine your local lemmy instance getting fined by China/Qatar/Thailand/etc for posting something breaking their laws.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Fine the phone company for allowing calls they don't like.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Flipside is EU trying to enforce GDPR and such

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    GDPR can only be enforced if the business wants to continue to do business in Europe. There are lots of non-European businesses that do not enforce GDPR rules but they can't sell products or services in Europe.

    But of course 4chan doesn't sell any products or services anywhere, it's not a business, so it's a bit hard to see exactly how this could be enforced.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Gross Domestic... Projekt Red?

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  • [+] -22 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    If they operate in China then it seems legit. If they don't operate in China it's a non issue.

    This might be stupid, but the corollary of your statement is that a sovereign nation can't impose laws on foreign business....

    That what you want?

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Unironically yes. Otherwise the internet as we know it is very much over, and what we have instead is a mesh of country-nets.

    I mean, what is actually "doing business" when it comes a simple web page or a forum for example? Merely existing and being reachable.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Yeah, and a county could say "you can't do business in our county anymore" and block them

    A country can ban dildos, but they don't get to tell a foreign factory they can't make dildos. If an importer orders dildos anyways, that's between the importer and customs. Which in this case the importer is the ISP

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Otherwise the internet as we know it is very much over, and what we have instead is a mesh of country-nets.

    which, TBH, doesn't seem so bad to me. as an european, i'm personally sick of all the sick (as in, unwell) culture from america swapping over via the internet and poisoning people's minds.

    i mean, all the culture war is literally instigated by american capitalists to disrupt society and to disrupt the people's coherence, to make them weaker and therefore easier to exploit.

    If it wasn't for continuous exposure to american influence, europe would long have drastic left-wing political reforms, i guess.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Oh yes, because it's not like Nigel Farage, Victor Orban and a bunch of other populists didn't make use of US companies and advisors (and russian funds...) on how to best fracture societies to their end. Clearly nuking the internet would put an end to that, and all would be well.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. You can impose as much laws as you can enforce them. Don't want your citizens to buy anything from me, stop shipments at your border. Want to stop payments, talk to your banks. Want to stop access to my servers, block them at your routers.

    Why the fuck should I enforce your rules for you? You made them, you figure out how you will make them work.

    you being the UK government, in this case.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    My server is in the corned of my bedroom. How the hell can I be operating in China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Brazil, Norway, or The UK if my bedroom is in none of those countries?

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