▲ 529 ▼ Trump Classifies “Anti-Capitalism” as a Political Pre-Crime (jacobin.com) submitted 10 months ago by bytesonbike@discuss.online to c/workreform@lemmy.world 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children) Neither of those articles mention anti-capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 3abas@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) Try to do more than just cntrl+F. As defined by the FBI and DHS, anarchist violent extremism encompasses the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of an anti-government or anti-authority violent extremist ideology that considers capitalism and centralized government to be unnecessary and oppressive. Work backwards from that: if you're a leftist who considers capitalism to be oppressive, and you "threaten" to use your force (applying pressure, withholding labor, explicitly not violence as implied by "force or violence) to challenge government authority, congratulations, you're an anarchist violent criminal! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago You know it tracks that Wray wouldn't be able to distinguish anti capitalism from anarchism. This is the dumbest fucking timeline. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 months ago (1 child) Not true? Straight from the Politico article: The document includes just one mention of “anarchist violent extremists” — the term the FBI uses when describing terror threats from people who view “capitalism and centralized government to be unnecessary and oppressive,” according to a May 2021 threat assessment. But in congressional hearings, FBI Director Christopher Wray — who Biden chose to keep in place, restoring a tradition Trump broke — has extensively discussed the bureau’s work investigating people in that category. “Antifa is a real thing,” Wray added at that hearing. “It’s not a group or an organization, it’s a movement or an ideology, maybe one way of thinking of it, and we have quite a number — and I’ve said this consistently since my first time appearing before this committee — we have any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchist extremists. Some of those individuals self-identify with antifa.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I took that to mean anarchists, since they specifically call them "anarchist violent extremists" but I suppose that's an appropriately disingenuous take from the likes of Wray. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child) Try to do more than just cntrl+F. As defined by the FBI and DHS, anarchist violent extremism encompasses the potentially unlawful use or threat of force or violence in furtherance of an anti-government or anti-authority violent extremist ideology that considers capitalism and centralized government to be unnecessary and oppressive. Work backwards from that: if you're a leftist who considers capitalism to be oppressive, and you "threaten" to use your force (applying pressure, withholding labor, explicitly not violence as implied by "force or violence) to challenge government authority, congratulations, you're an anarchist violent criminal! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago You know it tracks that Wray wouldn't be able to distinguish anti capitalism from anarchism. This is the dumbest fucking timeline. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago You know it tracks that Wray wouldn't be able to distinguish anti capitalism from anarchism. This is the dumbest fucking timeline. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 months ago (1 child) Not true? Straight from the Politico article: The document includes just one mention of “anarchist violent extremists” — the term the FBI uses when describing terror threats from people who view “capitalism and centralized government to be unnecessary and oppressive,” according to a May 2021 threat assessment. But in congressional hearings, FBI Director Christopher Wray — who Biden chose to keep in place, restoring a tradition Trump broke — has extensively discussed the bureau’s work investigating people in that category. “Antifa is a real thing,” Wray added at that hearing. “It’s not a group or an organization, it’s a movement or an ideology, maybe one way of thinking of it, and we have quite a number — and I’ve said this consistently since my first time appearing before this committee — we have any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchist extremists. Some of those individuals self-identify with antifa.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I took that to mean anarchists, since they specifically call them "anarchist violent extremists" but I suppose that's an appropriately disingenuous take from the likes of Wray. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I took that to mean anarchists, since they specifically call them "anarchist violent extremists" but I suppose that's an appropriately disingenuous take from the likes of Wray. permalink fedilink source parent