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Fact : what's really behind the Swiss E-ID (lemmy.ml)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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End of September, Switzerland will vote for E-ID. A big threat for our privacy as it will widely used for tons of new use cases.

Behind the government pitch of an "open source project, completely optional" hides big tech industry... Which will make it mandatory to access their services.

What are your thoughts on that ?

#Switzerland #Privacymatters

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[–] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Mm yes the law, a thing that can never be changed, that big tech definitely doesn't have power to influence, and a concept that other countries definitely won't be "inspired" by

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    In Switzerland, any law changes can be prevented by a referendum

    So, no, in Switzerland, the law can not just be changed.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    "Can be", we know that citizens do not have criticism sense for technologies matters

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, but the e-ID won’t change that.

    If no e-ID is existent, you’ll have to upload a scan of your real world ID instead, with all unneeded data included.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    I use my ID maybe 1x per year at the moment.

    The ides of EID is to make it usable to access commons services such are bank, streaming, alcohol shop, sex shop and many else...which will make is use in many context where is unused at the moment.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You need to verify age for all these services already, if you offer those. (Except 18+ streaming).

    E-ID will not changed those laws.

    And if you don’t use these services now, you will not need E-ID then. (Except 18+ streaming)

    And if e-ID is declined by the people of Switzerland, you will have to upload ID for 18+ streaming. This law is already thought and can only be stopped with a new initiative.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why i should show my Is for streaming? Never had to.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Hahaha, have you even read my comment?

    There is a law that will come in effect soon about selling media and games that are age restricted. The seller has to do an age verification. The referendum against it did not get enough signatures. This law will come into effect no matter if e-ID yes or e-ID no. You didn’t have to verify your age yet, because that law is not in effect yet. You will have to upload a picture of your physical ID with unnecessary private data, if e-ID gets not passed. Do you really not understand?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    You need to verify age for all these services already, if you offer those.

    half of the given examples the cashier can just look at you if you are noticeably older than the age limit, but even when they want your ID they will just look at it with their eyes, not scanning it with a computer that cannot be verified right then and there what its doing

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    That will still work out with e-ID law in action

    The cashier can still take the risk, as they did before not checking ID, as it is only forbidden to give too young people alcohol not required to verify the age. This law is not changed with the e-ID law.

    With e-ID law in effect, you can still show physical ID to the cashier without any scanning. E-ID law won’t change that.

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