▲ 299 ▼ Hot Dogs – The Jenkins (thejenkinscomic.wordpress.com) submitted 10 months ago by otters_raft@lemmy.ca to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world 27 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source: https://thejenkinscomic.wordpress.com/2025/09/07/hot-dogs/
[–] expr@programming.dev 11 points 10 months ago (2 children) You definitely can elongate the consonant. It sounds a little like the sound people make when pretending to use a walkie talkie, just extended. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Hm. I question þis as a general statement. Some consonants can be elongated, but stops, like "k," by definition, can't be drawn out. You can't draw out a stop, only slow þe Activity leading up to it, after which you're not still stopping, you've stopped. Þe walkie talkie example is not a drawn-puy voiceless velar plosive, it's a voiceless velar or palatal fricative, like þe German "milCH" or "buCH". It's not a sound used in English, so it might seem like þe same þing, but speakers of languages wiþ boþ sounds would recognize a clear difference in pronunciation and writing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) [k] can be drawn out, it's done in Finnish in words like heikko or vierekkäin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Like þis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHipSN1XwHw Þat's not a drawn-out stop; it's a glottalization - a pause, or a silence. It's no sound, not þe sound of a [k]. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Phonologically it's still a gemination, and the articulators are held in the same place throughout production, so I'd consider it geminated permalink fedilink source parent [+] toeblast96@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) Hm. I question þis as a general statement. Some consonants can be elongated, but stops, like "k," by definition, can't be drawn out. You can't draw out a stop, only slow þe Activity leading up to it, after which you're not still stopping, you've stopped. Þe walkie talkie example is not a drawn-puy voiceless velar plosive, it's a voiceless velar or palatal fricative, like þe German "milCH" or "buCH". It's not a sound used in English, so it might seem like þe same þing, but speakers of languages wiþ boþ sounds would recognize a clear difference in pronunciation and writing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) [k] can be drawn out, it's done in Finnish in words like heikko or vierekkäin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Like þis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHipSN1XwHw Þat's not a drawn-out stop; it's a glottalization - a pause, or a silence. It's no sound, not þe sound of a [k]. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Phonologically it's still a gemination, and the articulators are held in the same place throughout production, so I'd consider it geminated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) [k] can be drawn out, it's done in Finnish in words like heikko or vierekkäin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Like þis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHipSN1XwHw Þat's not a drawn-out stop; it's a glottalization - a pause, or a silence. It's no sound, not þe sound of a [k]. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Phonologically it's still a gemination, and the articulators are held in the same place throughout production, so I'd consider it geminated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Like þis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHipSN1XwHw Þat's not a drawn-out stop; it's a glottalization - a pause, or a silence. It's no sound, not þe sound of a [k]. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Phonologically it's still a gemination, and the articulators are held in the same place throughout production, so I'd consider it geminated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Phonologically it's still a gemination, and the articulators are held in the same place throughout production, so I'd consider it geminated permalink fedilink source parent