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It wasn't your fault (piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/witchesvspatriarchy@lemmy.ca
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If you find one, you find a group cos like attracts attracts like.

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[+] -28 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It bothers me that anyone has ould bother to point out not all men are rapists. We aren't talking about or to you. Why do you feel the need to say something that everyone knows?

Its because on some level, these people know that people like them have done bad shit and they want to defend themselves.

It ain't about you dickhead.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    But it is. Because I see time and time again in the comments here that if I'm male, I'm either an apologist, or a rapist. This thread has disenfranchised an entire gender.

    I have all the empathy in the world for victims. I am not one of them, nor am I a perpetrator. I would, quite readily, turn in any person I know if they were a self admitted rapist. Moreover, I would entrap them by recording their confession, and submit it as evidence against them.

    I don't wish to diminish the point made in the OP, it's important to recognize the victims of rape. The fact is, the perpetrators are not exactly bragging about raping someone, so they don't exactly stand out. If they did, they wouldn't remain a free person.

    I get the point in the OP, but the comments here have been extremely toxic, branding every man who replies as either a rapist or an apologist.

    It's disgusting that someone would regard an entire gender as one, or the other. Many of us don't know if we even know anyone who has committed the crime, and never thought about it beyond the fact that it's a bad thing to happen... These bystanders are now apologists?

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  • [+] -15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    Your victim complex is massive my guy. The reason people shit on you for saying this is because the act of saying it implies it needs to be said. You don't even read your criticism but you assume it isn't constructive because you imagine it isn't.

    Once again because obviously you don't like reading: It does not fucking matter if most men aren't rapists when overwhelmingly most rapists are men and most men do not challenge rape culture. That does make most men dangerous for women. Reconcile that with your experiences.

    Right now, you are an example of how men make themselves a problem by not even considering they're wrong because they're insecure about being a man. Nobody is fucking saying men don't get victimized, they are correctly identifying that nearly 100% of cases of sexual violence is directed at women and the vast majority of men are complacent in a culture that perpetuates that violence. Making it about you because you don't like the association of manhood with sexual violence is in fact detrimental to discourses that seek to acknowledge sexual violence at all.

    You DENSE mother fucker.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago*

    It does not fucking matter if most men aren’t rapists when overwhelmingly most rapists are men

    How can you unironically write this while calling anyone else dense? This is equivalent to arguing that all fruits are apples, because all apples are fruits.

    Do you sink in mercury?

    the vast majority of men are complacent [toward rape]

    That's a lie, though. You're lying. Your deep sexism against men has led you to assume a total lack of humanity and empathy in half of the world's population. You've dehumanized them so profoundly that the very act of a male contradicting your prejudice infuriates you enough to double down while calling him a "DENSE mother fucker".

    For shame.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Then stop saying all men are rapists. Stop treating men like theyre all rapists. Stop implying that if I knew my friend was a rapist, he would still be breathing.

    I hate rapists as much as everyone else, so why is it constantly being portrayed as though I'm evil and deserve to be treated as a danger just because im a guy?

    This sign exclusively implies that men cover for other men. I do not and would not cover for a rapist. Theres a valid point to be made about men and rape, and this sign completely misses it.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago

    No one but you has brought to this conversation the concept that "All men are rapists" and it's confounding that you don't understand how much of a stereotype you're being coming into a women's space to shout "not all men".

    It's also a complete misunderstanding of the point women are making there. We don't believe that every single man is a rapist. Society has this regressive belief that a rapist is always going to be a nasty, creepy, criminal, awful man and that it would be completely obvious to any bystander that there's something wrong with this dude and to stay away. But that just isn't the case. So, it's a warning to women that any man could be a rapist. Even if they're a respected member of their community, a judge, a politician, a movie producer, etc.

    The other thing is the sign is using the word rapist here, but there are also many, many, many other forms of sexual assault, abuse and harassment and I can almost guarantee that you and most men have excused something in the past. My state actually made an amazing PSA about this a few years back now. Because there are so many acts that make women scared, or uncomfortable, that so many men just pretend doesn't happen.

    I'd also like to point out that it's super ironic that you don't seem to understand the fallacy of your own hubris. You've walked into an explicitly women's space, to yell at women, about how it's "Not All Men", without consent. Maybe you and the other men in this thread should sit with that for a bit?

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