▲ 60 ▼ Payment app without Google in Europe? (slrpnk.net) submitted 11 months ago by SolarPunker@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 57 comments fedilink hide all child comments There is a payment app/bank account in Europe who doesn't need Google Play Services to fully works?
[–] Sal@mander.xyz 9 points 11 months ago (2 children) In the Netherlands, at least with ING, you can request standalone code reader and pay through any browser, like this: permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago (7 children) Speaking as an ignorant American who still happily uses card, I have to ask: PEOPLE PAY FOR SHIT VIA QRCODES??? O_O permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (2 children) Those aren't exactly qr codes, but rather a scan code, different thing. Though yes, one could pay using qr here. But I never do it because anyone can make QR codes. With those scan codes you need more additional verification, it's safer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) Some enterprising individuals in the US figured out you could print out your Venmo QR and stick it to parking signs to get people to just send you money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago Lol that sounds about right. As someone who works in retail (please kill me now), I can def tell you that people don't pay attention. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Honestly, it might be I'm wrong about this since I don't live in a big city so maybe it's different in like NYC or some shit, but I'm under the impression that QR Codes have kinda been dead in the US. At least I hardly ever see one in the wild anymore. Mainly I presume for that reason. It's a prime way for malware injection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) most places that use qr codes here have them on a display and change them every five seconds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) here Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 11 months ago yurop permalink fedilink source parent [–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) PEOPLE PAY FOR SHIT VIA QRCODES??? O_O It's ubiquitous through much of SE Asia. Eg Thailand etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago That's something I did not know. Thanks for educating me! permalink fedilink source parent [–] hithereiamaliff@lemmy.mynameisaliff.co.uk 2 points 11 months ago* Yes, this is correct.. not just Thailand, but also Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Vietnam, Philippines, and Cambodia.. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* For payments between friends, we can request payments via QRcodes from our banking apps that friends scan with their banking apps. It’s secure as before you scan the QRcode, you can see the amount you’ll pay and when you scan it with your app, you’ll see the amount you’re going to pay and then you have to either use biometrics or your pin to confirm the transfer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago Oh mate, you need to go to China and discover that shit! It was already everywhere back when I lived there in 2016 and I mean everywhere. Even the local dude selling flat bread for 50p accepted payment with his QR code. Amazing stuff, seriously. I'm so sick and tired of being so far behind... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sal@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Ahh, no no. We can pay with card with no need for an app. This code reader thing can be used for 2FA when making an online payment or logging into the banking site, so one does not need to use a phone app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago Well that's interesting! :O permalink fedilink source parent [–] hithereiamaliff@lemmy.mynameisaliff.co.uk 3 points 11 months ago I’m from a Southeast Asian country known as Malaysia, and yes, not only it’s a norm to use QR for making payments at shops and transfer money online here (we have a unified QR system called DuitNow QR), but also when paying at some shops in neighbouring Thailand and Singapore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* Yep, in Belgium too. Can be directly at the cashier in a physical store, barber, etc or online e.g. food delivery. It's pretty efficient and AFAICT pretty low cost. Also does not have to rely on MasterCard or VISA. permalink fedilink source parent [–] arch@feddit.nl 3 points 11 months ago* (1 child) thanks a lot, i am also an ing customer and not aware of that. do you mind explaining a little bit on how it works? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sal@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) This scanner is for 2-factor authentication in the case that one does not want to use a phone app. When you try to log in, or pay online, the browser displays a unique QR code that the scanner is able to decode. You would enter your pin into the scanner, scan the code, and the scanner displays a number. You then type that decoded number into a field under the QR code and your are let through. It can be ordered for free here in the NL: https://www.ing.nl/particulier/digitaal-bankieren/mijn-ing/scanner So, with this scanner as a 2FA method, the app is not needed. One can pay offline with a card, online with a scanner, and check account balances through any browser using the scanner to log in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arch@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago Thanks so much. This is really helpful :3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago (7 children) Speaking as an ignorant American who still happily uses card, I have to ask: PEOPLE PAY FOR SHIT VIA QRCODES??? O_O permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (2 children) Those aren't exactly qr codes, but rather a scan code, different thing. Though yes, one could pay using qr here. But I never do it because anyone can make QR codes. With those scan codes you need more additional verification, it's safer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) Some enterprising individuals in the US figured out you could print out your Venmo QR and stick it to parking signs to get people to just send you money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago Lol that sounds about right. As someone who works in retail (please kill me now), I can def tell you that people don't pay attention. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Honestly, it might be I'm wrong about this since I don't live in a big city so maybe it's different in like NYC or some shit, but I'm under the impression that QR Codes have kinda been dead in the US. At least I hardly ever see one in the wild anymore. Mainly I presume for that reason. It's a prime way for malware injection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) most places that use qr codes here have them on a display and change them every five seconds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) here Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 11 months ago yurop permalink fedilink source parent [–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) PEOPLE PAY FOR SHIT VIA QRCODES??? O_O It's ubiquitous through much of SE Asia. Eg Thailand etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago That's something I did not know. Thanks for educating me! permalink fedilink source parent [–] hithereiamaliff@lemmy.mynameisaliff.co.uk 2 points 11 months ago* Yes, this is correct.. not just Thailand, but also Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Vietnam, Philippines, and Cambodia.. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* For payments between friends, we can request payments via QRcodes from our banking apps that friends scan with their banking apps. It’s secure as before you scan the QRcode, you can see the amount you’ll pay and when you scan it with your app, you’ll see the amount you’re going to pay and then you have to either use biometrics or your pin to confirm the transfer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago Oh mate, you need to go to China and discover that shit! It was already everywhere back when I lived there in 2016 and I mean everywhere. Even the local dude selling flat bread for 50p accepted payment with his QR code. Amazing stuff, seriously. I'm so sick and tired of being so far behind... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sal@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Ahh, no no. We can pay with card with no need for an app. This code reader thing can be used for 2FA when making an online payment or logging into the banking site, so one does not need to use a phone app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago Well that's interesting! :O permalink fedilink source parent [–] hithereiamaliff@lemmy.mynameisaliff.co.uk 3 points 11 months ago I’m from a Southeast Asian country known as Malaysia, and yes, not only it’s a norm to use QR for making payments at shops and transfer money online here (we have a unified QR system called DuitNow QR), but also when paying at some shops in neighbouring Thailand and Singapore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* Yep, in Belgium too. Can be directly at the cashier in a physical store, barber, etc or online e.g. food delivery. It's pretty efficient and AFAICT pretty low cost. Also does not have to rely on MasterCard or VISA. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (2 children) Those aren't exactly qr codes, but rather a scan code, different thing. Though yes, one could pay using qr here. But I never do it because anyone can make QR codes. With those scan codes you need more additional verification, it's safer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) Some enterprising individuals in the US figured out you could print out your Venmo QR and stick it to parking signs to get people to just send you money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago Lol that sounds about right. As someone who works in retail (please kill me now), I can def tell you that people don't pay attention. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Honestly, it might be I'm wrong about this since I don't live in a big city so maybe it's different in like NYC or some shit, but I'm under the impression that QR Codes have kinda been dead in the US. At least I hardly ever see one in the wild anymore. Mainly I presume for that reason. It's a prime way for malware injection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) most places that use qr codes here have them on a display and change them every five seconds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) here Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 11 months ago yurop permalink fedilink source parent
[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) Some enterprising individuals in the US figured out you could print out your Venmo QR and stick it to parking signs to get people to just send you money permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago Lol that sounds about right. As someone who works in retail (please kill me now), I can def tell you that people don't pay attention. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago Lol that sounds about right. As someone who works in retail (please kill me now), I can def tell you that people don't pay attention. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Honestly, it might be I'm wrong about this since I don't live in a big city so maybe it's different in like NYC or some shit, but I'm under the impression that QR Codes have kinda been dead in the US. At least I hardly ever see one in the wild anymore. Mainly I presume for that reason. It's a prime way for malware injection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) most places that use qr codes here have them on a display and change them every five seconds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) here Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 11 months ago yurop permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) most places that use qr codes here have them on a display and change them every five seconds. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) here Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 11 months ago yurop permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) here Where? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 11 months ago yurop permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 months ago (2 children) PEOPLE PAY FOR SHIT VIA QRCODES??? O_O It's ubiquitous through much of SE Asia. Eg Thailand etc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago That's something I did not know. Thanks for educating me! permalink fedilink source parent [–] hithereiamaliff@lemmy.mynameisaliff.co.uk 2 points 11 months ago* Yes, this is correct.. not just Thailand, but also Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Vietnam, Philippines, and Cambodia.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago That's something I did not know. Thanks for educating me! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hithereiamaliff@lemmy.mynameisaliff.co.uk 2 points 11 months ago* Yes, this is correct.. not just Thailand, but also Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Vietnam, Philippines, and Cambodia.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* For payments between friends, we can request payments via QRcodes from our banking apps that friends scan with their banking apps. It’s secure as before you scan the QRcode, you can see the amount you’ll pay and when you scan it with your app, you’ll see the amount you’re going to pay and then you have to either use biometrics or your pin to confirm the transfer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago Oh mate, you need to go to China and discover that shit! It was already everywhere back when I lived there in 2016 and I mean everywhere. Even the local dude selling flat bread for 50p accepted payment with his QR code. Amazing stuff, seriously. I'm so sick and tired of being so far behind... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sal@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Ahh, no no. We can pay with card with no need for an app. This code reader thing can be used for 2FA when making an online payment or logging into the banking site, so one does not need to use a phone app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago Well that's interesting! :O permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago Well that's interesting! :O permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hithereiamaliff@lemmy.mynameisaliff.co.uk 3 points 11 months ago I’m from a Southeast Asian country known as Malaysia, and yes, not only it’s a norm to use QR for making payments at shops and transfer money online here (we have a unified QR system called DuitNow QR), but also when paying at some shops in neighbouring Thailand and Singapore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* Yep, in Belgium too. Can be directly at the cashier in a physical store, barber, etc or online e.g. food delivery. It's pretty efficient and AFAICT pretty low cost. Also does not have to rely on MasterCard or VISA. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arch@feddit.nl 3 points 11 months ago* (1 child) thanks a lot, i am also an ing customer and not aware of that. do you mind explaining a little bit on how it works? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sal@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) This scanner is for 2-factor authentication in the case that one does not want to use a phone app. When you try to log in, or pay online, the browser displays a unique QR code that the scanner is able to decode. You would enter your pin into the scanner, scan the code, and the scanner displays a number. You then type that decoded number into a field under the QR code and your are let through. It can be ordered for free here in the NL: https://www.ing.nl/particulier/digitaal-bankieren/mijn-ing/scanner So, with this scanner as a 2FA method, the app is not needed. One can pay offline with a card, online with a scanner, and check account balances through any browser using the scanner to log in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arch@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago Thanks so much. This is really helpful :3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sal@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) This scanner is for 2-factor authentication in the case that one does not want to use a phone app. When you try to log in, or pay online, the browser displays a unique QR code that the scanner is able to decode. You would enter your pin into the scanner, scan the code, and the scanner displays a number. You then type that decoded number into a field under the QR code and your are let through. It can be ordered for free here in the NL: https://www.ing.nl/particulier/digitaal-bankieren/mijn-ing/scanner So, with this scanner as a 2FA method, the app is not needed. One can pay offline with a card, online with a scanner, and check account balances through any browser using the scanner to log in. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arch@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago Thanks so much. This is really helpful :3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arch@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago Thanks so much. This is really helpful :3 permalink fedilink source parent