And to that end, dressing up nice enough for interview at most places shouldn’t even be that high a bar. Dark jeans and a nice button up, even one with patterns honestly, will probably be enough. After that, though, most jobs pay like shit and treat people worse than that so if they expect me to show up in a suit and jerk them off they can get bent.

If the job isn't representative or dealing with customers, fuck off with fashion sense or pay for the uniform.

Dressing up as a guy is kinda hard, the widely accepted options tend to have much less variety than women's fashion. You pretty much have to get weird to make it a little fun, and that's risky.

I guess that actually makes it easy to dress up, it's just depressingly boring.

There are a lot of dudes who basically just think that if they meet a bare minimum then they’re owed something. You can see it a lot just walking around and will probably notice it more as the percentage of chain restaurants and parking lots in the area goes up.

You and I might put more effort in but how we are doesn’t change how they are.

Now I'm deeply curious about your fashion sense. What's the weirdest item that you love and regularly wear?

Well in fairness men's fashion is essentially t-shirt or suit & tie.

T-shirt is fairly versatile but men's fashion is not that limited.

I mean, that's really not true. Just look at the various male fashion advice communities, streetwear culture, etc. There's a huge variety in different styles of shirts, outerwear, layering, footwear, accessories, and pants. Hell, even t-shirts and denim have a huge variety in style and quality.

There's massive cultural pressure for women to be fashionable and wear the "right" clothes, a pressure men by and large don't have to deal with. Companies are one of the primary drivers of this pressure by manipulative marketing practices that that convince many women that they need the latest trends and fashions to be keep up.

All of it is bullshit meant to keep people spending money, ultimately. Fashion should be a form of personal expression and personality and by no means requires purchasing new clothing all of the time.

I totally agree that women get a lot more variety but there’s still all kinds of stuff we can do in between. Button up shirts with nice patterns are a huge way to bridge the gap, and you can tuck them in or not and even just leave them open with a t-shirt underneath. Wearing good glasses is important, and frankly we should just pretend those plain black rectangle ones don’t exist because they’re always the worst option. Head to a place like Zenni and it doesn’t have to be expensive(those expensive glasses are a racket).

I got a pair of black stud earrings a while ago and people were like “goddamn”. I know that’s a little more difficult, but it was a small and not too flashy change that made a big difference. A good haircut is also easy to get since you’re already going to the barber anyway, and I discovered beard brushes a while back which straighten out even very short beards and keep everything looking sharp.

There’s a LOT we can do even though we’re kinda limited in many other ways.

Diverse well fitting shirts and non-cargo pants from other materials than denim. More adventurous men can dive into different kinds of tunics, sweaters and such, can have accessories like neckerchieves and scarves, nice bags, footwear. You can play with colors and patterns... Men can have some fun with clothes too.

I know a guy who encountered this problem and answered it by wearing suits every day.

It might be a little bit 2000s but a collared button down shirt worn over a t-shirt can spruce up the look quite a bit.

What does that even mean? I’m 6’-5” and only 175-180lbs and I’m not flush with cash but I still get by just fine.