▲ 150 ▼ Thunderbird Shares New Details on Upcoming Pro Features (Thundermail's servers to be located in Germany! 🇩🇪) (www.omgubuntu.co.uk) submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments FWIW: The servers hosting Thundermail will initially be located in Germany with more countries to follow in the future.
[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (2 children) Germany’s returning back to full fascism, with overt state surveillance. This is bad news. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml [S] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children) Well . . . at least it's not in the US . . . ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 child) You don’t think the EU and US are sharing surveillance data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children) I'm sure they do. Do you self-host your email? I'm not smart or patient enough to do that, so I have to trust someone, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BehavioralClam@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago If you self-host it, you´re actually more open to lesser vector of attack, since I really doubt you will go into building robust security solutions with your personal IP. That includes local law enforcement or criminal elements just taking your server. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Even if you do self host who are you sending email to? It's most likely going to one of the big tech companies. permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago The US and EU are tight-knit allies in empire. The US Empire has hegemony, sure, but the EU is still a willing participant in imperialism. They are all millitary allies through NATO, they share data. If you live in the west, the west having data on you is what can harm you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago There are no asia-based email services of comparison to the european private ones unfortunately. Fast mail but that's 5-eyes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml [S] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children) Well . . . at least it's not in the US . . . ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 child) You don’t think the EU and US are sharing surveillance data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children) I'm sure they do. Do you self-host your email? I'm not smart or patient enough to do that, so I have to trust someone, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BehavioralClam@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago If you self-host it, you´re actually more open to lesser vector of attack, since I really doubt you will go into building robust security solutions with your personal IP. That includes local law enforcement or criminal elements just taking your server. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Even if you do self host who are you sending email to? It's most likely going to one of the big tech companies. permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago The US and EU are tight-knit allies in empire. The US Empire has hegemony, sure, but the EU is still a willing participant in imperialism. They are all millitary allies through NATO, they share data. If you live in the west, the west having data on you is what can harm you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 child) You don’t think the EU and US are sharing surveillance data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children) I'm sure they do. Do you self-host your email? I'm not smart or patient enough to do that, so I have to trust someone, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BehavioralClam@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago If you self-host it, you´re actually more open to lesser vector of attack, since I really doubt you will go into building robust security solutions with your personal IP. That includes local law enforcement or criminal elements just taking your server. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Even if you do self host who are you sending email to? It's most likely going to one of the big tech companies. permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml [S] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children) I'm sure they do. Do you self-host your email? I'm not smart or patient enough to do that, so I have to trust someone, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BehavioralClam@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago If you self-host it, you´re actually more open to lesser vector of attack, since I really doubt you will go into building robust security solutions with your personal IP. That includes local law enforcement or criminal elements just taking your server. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Even if you do self host who are you sending email to? It's most likely going to one of the big tech companies. permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BehavioralClam@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago If you self-host it, you´re actually more open to lesser vector of attack, since I really doubt you will go into building robust security solutions with your personal IP. That includes local law enforcement or criminal elements just taking your server. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Even if you do self host who are you sending email to? It's most likely going to one of the big tech companies. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago The US and EU are tight-knit allies in empire. The US Empire has hegemony, sure, but the EU is still a willing participant in imperialism. They are all millitary allies through NATO, they share data. If you live in the west, the west having data on you is what can harm you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago There are no asia-based email services of comparison to the european private ones unfortunately. Fast mail but that's 5-eyes. permalink fedilink source parent