▲ 264 ▼ UK passes "online safety" bill making end-to-end encryption impossible (www.reuters.com) submitted 2 years ago by El_Dorado@beehaw.org to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 91 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) Backdoors make it "technically feasible" to scan "e2ee". See, it's all a matter of perspective. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zelet@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fucking doublespeak (not you). If you can scan it then it isn’t e2ee. Words mean things. E2ee means that the two parties are the only two who can read the message. If there is a way to do any analysis on the message at all then it isn’t e2ee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Teppic@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) While I largely agree with you, technically it is still E2EE even if the encryption is very poor (e.g. hey look I shifted every character by one along the ASCII table). Poor encryption could then be broken by a party in the middle. All of that said this is a bit irrelevant, if the encryption is so poor the provider can break it at will, so can bad actors. We don't use broken (bad) encryption for a reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* Companies also advertise e2ee while they generate and store the encryption keys on their server. So, it is encrypted all the way, but still easy enough to decrypt when needed. Very technically feasible and still strong against third parties. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bipta@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago But they're not mandating such backdoors it seems. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zelet@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Fucking doublespeak (not you). If you can scan it then it isn’t e2ee. Words mean things. E2ee means that the two parties are the only two who can read the message. If there is a way to do any analysis on the message at all then it isn’t e2ee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Teppic@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) While I largely agree with you, technically it is still E2EE even if the encryption is very poor (e.g. hey look I shifted every character by one along the ASCII table). Poor encryption could then be broken by a party in the middle. All of that said this is a bit irrelevant, if the encryption is so poor the provider can break it at will, so can bad actors. We don't use broken (bad) encryption for a reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* Companies also advertise e2ee while they generate and store the encryption keys on their server. So, it is encrypted all the way, but still easy enough to decrypt when needed. Very technically feasible and still strong against third parties. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Teppic@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) While I largely agree with you, technically it is still E2EE even if the encryption is very poor (e.g. hey look I shifted every character by one along the ASCII table). Poor encryption could then be broken by a party in the middle. All of that said this is a bit irrelevant, if the encryption is so poor the provider can break it at will, so can bad actors. We don't use broken (bad) encryption for a reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* Companies also advertise e2ee while they generate and store the encryption keys on their server. So, it is encrypted all the way, but still easy enough to decrypt when needed. Very technically feasible and still strong against third parties. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* Companies also advertise e2ee while they generate and store the encryption keys on their server. So, it is encrypted all the way, but still easy enough to decrypt when needed. Very technically feasible and still strong against third parties. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bipta@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago But they're not mandating such backdoors it seems. permalink fedilink source parent