▲ 587 ▼ Cybertruck vs. T-14 (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by PugJesus@lemmy.world to c/noncredibledefense@lemmy.world 60 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] BB69@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (3 children) EVs suddenly don’t get good fuel economy? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, with EVs, you compare the economy to other EVs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BB69@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well… we don’t have info… so… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Tesla Cybertruck is estimated to get about 2.4 miles per kWh, or 415 watts per mile. In comparison, a Tesla Model 3 gets about 3.4 miles per kWh, or 290 watts per mile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BB69@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) That’s an estimate. Even so, that’s better than the F150 Lightning (1.9 mi/kWh) and the Rivian R1T (1.81 mi/kWh) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) So we're saying it does get good fuel economy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BB69@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago For an electric truck, (that’s not in public hands for testing, so we’re guessing) yes, it’s like 25% more efficient than the competitors. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* Yes it's not bad... the Rivian gets about 2.1 miles/kwhr Although you could definitely design a smaller, more efficient EV truck. Hey, like this one! https://electrek.co/2023/05/19/ayro-vanish-electric-mini-truck-opens-pre-orders/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago That's what my Chevy bolt gets on the highway in winter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 years ago (3 children) The cybertruck would use, according to at least one estimate, about 350 Wh/km, which puts it as the least efficient EV (including an old source). Compares to about an F-150 Lightning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago* The Hummer has 419 Wh/km, or worse, so even with that estimate it wouldn't be the worst. permalink fedilink source parent [–] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's a lot. Looked up numbers for high-speed rail: for passangers minimum is 29Wh/km/sest in Japan and maximum is 41Wh/km/seat for Eurostar, for freight it's between 315Wh/km/t and 525Wh/km/t. Again, this is for high-speed rail at least 300km/h. For slow speed train(for example 90km/h) this will go much, much lower. Probably something between 30 and 100Wh/km/t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Metanoia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Man I need those numbers converted to mi/kwh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sysadmin420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Satoshis per yard/h permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 1.78 mi/kwh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Metanoia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Darn that's less than half of what I get permalink fedilink source parent [–] StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* If it's a new car, then it's less efficient than your old car. This is still true (or possibly even more true) for electric cars. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, with EVs, you compare the economy to other EVs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BB69@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well… we don’t have info… so… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Tesla Cybertruck is estimated to get about 2.4 miles per kWh, or 415 watts per mile. In comparison, a Tesla Model 3 gets about 3.4 miles per kWh, or 290 watts per mile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BB69@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) That’s an estimate. Even so, that’s better than the F150 Lightning (1.9 mi/kWh) and the Rivian R1T (1.81 mi/kWh) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) So we're saying it does get good fuel economy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BB69@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago For an electric truck, (that’s not in public hands for testing, so we’re guessing) yes, it’s like 25% more efficient than the competitors. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* Yes it's not bad... the Rivian gets about 2.1 miles/kwhr Although you could definitely design a smaller, more efficient EV truck. Hey, like this one! https://electrek.co/2023/05/19/ayro-vanish-electric-mini-truck-opens-pre-orders/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago That's what my Chevy bolt gets on the highway in winter. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BB69@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well… we don’t have info… so… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Tesla Cybertruck is estimated to get about 2.4 miles per kWh, or 415 watts per mile. In comparison, a Tesla Model 3 gets about 3.4 miles per kWh, or 290 watts per mile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BB69@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) That’s an estimate. Even so, that’s better than the F150 Lightning (1.9 mi/kWh) and the Rivian R1T (1.81 mi/kWh) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) So we're saying it does get good fuel economy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BB69@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago For an electric truck, (that’s not in public hands for testing, so we’re guessing) yes, it’s like 25% more efficient than the competitors. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* Yes it's not bad... the Rivian gets about 2.1 miles/kwhr Although you could definitely design a smaller, more efficient EV truck. Hey, like this one! https://electrek.co/2023/05/19/ayro-vanish-electric-mini-truck-opens-pre-orders/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago That's what my Chevy bolt gets on the highway in winter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Tesla Cybertruck is estimated to get about 2.4 miles per kWh, or 415 watts per mile. In comparison, a Tesla Model 3 gets about 3.4 miles per kWh, or 290 watts per mile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BB69@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) That’s an estimate. Even so, that’s better than the F150 Lightning (1.9 mi/kWh) and the Rivian R1T (1.81 mi/kWh) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) So we're saying it does get good fuel economy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BB69@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago For an electric truck, (that’s not in public hands for testing, so we’re guessing) yes, it’s like 25% more efficient than the competitors. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* Yes it's not bad... the Rivian gets about 2.1 miles/kwhr Although you could definitely design a smaller, more efficient EV truck. Hey, like this one! https://electrek.co/2023/05/19/ayro-vanish-electric-mini-truck-opens-pre-orders/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago That's what my Chevy bolt gets on the highway in winter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BB69@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) That’s an estimate. Even so, that’s better than the F150 Lightning (1.9 mi/kWh) and the Rivian R1T (1.81 mi/kWh) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) So we're saying it does get good fuel economy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BB69@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago For an electric truck, (that’s not in public hands for testing, so we’re guessing) yes, it’s like 25% more efficient than the competitors. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* Yes it's not bad... the Rivian gets about 2.1 miles/kwhr Although you could definitely design a smaller, more efficient EV truck. Hey, like this one! https://electrek.co/2023/05/19/ayro-vanish-electric-mini-truck-opens-pre-orders/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) So we're saying it does get good fuel economy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BB69@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago For an electric truck, (that’s not in public hands for testing, so we’re guessing) yes, it’s like 25% more efficient than the competitors. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* Yes it's not bad... the Rivian gets about 2.1 miles/kwhr Although you could definitely design a smaller, more efficient EV truck. Hey, like this one! https://electrek.co/2023/05/19/ayro-vanish-electric-mini-truck-opens-pre-orders/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BB69@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago For an electric truck, (that’s not in public hands for testing, so we’re guessing) yes, it’s like 25% more efficient than the competitors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* Yes it's not bad... the Rivian gets about 2.1 miles/kwhr Although you could definitely design a smaller, more efficient EV truck. Hey, like this one! https://electrek.co/2023/05/19/ayro-vanish-electric-mini-truck-opens-pre-orders/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago That's what my Chevy bolt gets on the highway in winter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 years ago (3 children) The cybertruck would use, according to at least one estimate, about 350 Wh/km, which puts it as the least efficient EV (including an old source). Compares to about an F-150 Lightning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago* The Hummer has 419 Wh/km, or worse, so even with that estimate it wouldn't be the worst. permalink fedilink source parent [–] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's a lot. Looked up numbers for high-speed rail: for passangers minimum is 29Wh/km/sest in Japan and maximum is 41Wh/km/seat for Eurostar, for freight it's between 315Wh/km/t and 525Wh/km/t. Again, this is for high-speed rail at least 300km/h. For slow speed train(for example 90km/h) this will go much, much lower. Probably something between 30 and 100Wh/km/t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Metanoia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Man I need those numbers converted to mi/kwh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sysadmin420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Satoshis per yard/h permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 1.78 mi/kwh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Metanoia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Darn that's less than half of what I get permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago* The Hummer has 419 Wh/km, or worse, so even with that estimate it wouldn't be the worst. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That's a lot. Looked up numbers for high-speed rail: for passangers minimum is 29Wh/km/sest in Japan and maximum is 41Wh/km/seat for Eurostar, for freight it's between 315Wh/km/t and 525Wh/km/t. Again, this is for high-speed rail at least 300km/h. For slow speed train(for example 90km/h) this will go much, much lower. Probably something between 30 and 100Wh/km/t. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Metanoia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Man I need those numbers converted to mi/kwh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sysadmin420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Satoshis per yard/h permalink fedilink source parent [–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 1.78 mi/kwh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Metanoia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Darn that's less than half of what I get permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sysadmin420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Satoshis per yard/h permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) 1.78 mi/kwh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Metanoia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Darn that's less than half of what I get permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Metanoia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Darn that's less than half of what I get permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* If it's a new car, then it's less efficient than your old car. This is still true (or possibly even more true) for electric cars. permalink fedilink source parent