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How do you manage private phones with work necessities? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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I’ve been tinkering with the idea of switching back to a dumb phone. I haven’t dug too far into the search because every time I do, I get hung up on the apps I need for work - outlook, my work keycard app, etc. Is there any good way to work around this? Keep my current phone with only those apps for work, operating on WiFi, and switch my primary phone? If anyone has examples of things they’ve tried and what’s worked, that would be great. TIA!

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[–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

This is the correct answer. If they want you to do any work in a mobile, remote, out of hours capacity, they need to provide the device.

I used to help manage MDM at my old company and I can tell you there is a shit load they can do once you install their utilities. For example:

  • remotely wipe your phone
  • block your ability to copy/paste between applications
  • view all web traffic to/from it (even encrypted traffic since we installed a proxy that put its own trusted root certificate in)
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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, as far as I am concerned, there's a direct conflict of interest between myself and my company when it comes the usage of a device that doubles as a personal and professional device. I understand the company's need to take measures to control sensitive information, and when I do whatever I do on my spare time, I am unnecessarily (from the point of view of the company) endangering the information I have access to. And because of the safe-guards they put in place, they are taking an unacceptable amount of control of a device I keep my personal sensitive data.

    Because of this I find it a bit baffling that BYOD ever became accepted practice, both from the employer's side and the employee's side.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It 10000% a cost savings decision. Executives don't see why they have to approve a giant bill for company devices when people have their own already. Regardless of how much we point out the risks.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I am actually used to the company buying you a phone that you use as a personal device, but must then be enrolled in Intune or something similar. It is considered a perk of the job, and a taxable one at that. So the saving is not as obvious in this case.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    BYOD benefits the company at the employees stupidity (and sometimes the only choice). The employee thinks “cool, only one phone to use!” but for the company it saves a lot of money and they still get the control they want. They don’t have a downside to implement it.

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