this is as stupid of a take as saying, “violence is bad!” towards someone bloodied and bruised who just defended themselves from an attack.

Self defense is different than drunkenly flattening a pedestrian lmao

Jumping back here to say that

we need to ALWAYS remember the sheer depravity other human beings are capable of.

Is the only thing I'm saying

You're arguing against things I did not say nor imply. I have made no argument here against self defense nor for civility.

I am abiding the paradox of tolerance by not tolerating dehumanizing rhetoric. Because I believe that rhetoric enables fascism.