you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[+] -27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    No individual is responsible for everything. But there are a disproportionately small number of individuals with a disproportionately large amount of power over a lot of things that affect a disproportionately large number of people. And you can bet they talk to each other.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Who are these people?

    Last time i heard this inane shit, it was the Jews, so just wondering if that's still the case.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The CEOs/Presidents/Owners of major Oil companies and major food manufacturers.

    Nestle, Proctor & Gamble, Exxon, Suncor, BP, this is just off the top of my head.

    Those ones and more. The jew bullshit (and the rest of Q anon) is there to keep us fighting each other so the problem doesn’t get fixed.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [+] -10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The CEOs/Presidents/Owners of major Oil companies

    Are you one of those people that blames climate change on oil manufacturers?

    major food manufacturers

    This one's way out of left field so I think it deserves its own explanation. The hell?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Question one: Yes. Watch the documentary Who killed the electric car for more. It’s old now, but it goes in to detail about how oil companies and car manufacturers took action to crush electric car development in the 90s.

    People have wanted affordable alternatives to oil products for decades and these companies actively stifle progress in those areas.

    Companies like Nestle pay minimal fees for our natural water sources then sell it back to us in plastic bottles. There was also the whole thing in the 70s where they fucked over a bunch of third world moms and a lot of babies died.

    I’ll let you do your own browsing, but here’s the first source I found on the first one to get you started:

    https://www.mashed.com/717227/nestles-water-controversy-explained/

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It’s old now, but it goes in to detail about how oil companies and car manufacturers took action to crush electric car development in the 90s.

    So, irrelevant to today. Got it.

    Companies like Nestle pay minimal fees for our natural water sources then sell it back to us in plastic bottles

    No. Places sell Nestle water rights, and they do what they want with those rights. That's no more dishonest or controlling than a California nut farmer doing the same.

    Do you have anything current-day, or real at all, that you'd like to bring up?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ok you clearly don’t want to listen, just argue, and I’m trying to relax.

    See ya.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Maybe if you want to relax don't pop out inane hot takes. Someone might call you out on those.

    Enjoy being irrationally mad at George Soros in a couple years and wondering how you got to that point.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Keep going with the insults. It’ll really help you get your point across. 🙄

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Don't mind him, he's just one of those types who thinks it's okay his neighbors are exploited and abused by society all their lives so they'll make his burgers for him.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Clearly the Q anon is working on him. Even though he doesn’t believe it he’s going to lump in real problems with the insane conspiracy theories.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    He's heavily pro-establishment and is of the type that'll defend it at any cost which makes me wonder if he isn't being paid to shill just like what would happen on Reddit. Though then again, he could genuinely feel that the way things are is to his benefit. He could be the type that looks at his neighbors walking down the street and thinks they are good servants for him.

    I legit didn't realize there were a lot of people who genuinely are okay with and want the authoritarian nightmare we're stuck in until I started seeing people like him on Lemmy, point in fact. He's not the only pro status quo concern troll I've seen on here. Far from it.

    People like him are creepy af.

  • source
  • parent
  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Dismissing and insulting conspiracy theorists is the only sane way to interact with them.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Cool, go find some.

    Like I said, the Q anon shit is there to keep us fighting and you’re falling for it. Even though you don’t believe it you’re dismissing real problems as conspiracies and resorting to insults to avoid having to learn anything.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    But the claim here is just wrong. Being rich and powerful doesn’t make them automatically accountable for everything.

    No, of course not. No one is responsible for everything.

    But, as a very quick and simplistic example of what the post is saying, if someone hates immigrants because “they took our jobs,” that person is missing the very obvious fact that employers are the ones hiring people. Immigrants can’t “force” that. And of course even that employer is responding to pressures, both systemic and from above them.

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Either you are being short-sighted or disingenuous. Of course they aren't automatically accountable for EvErYtHiNg. But they are accountable for a vastly disproportionate amount of things that affect most people's lives. Ya know, that's how power works.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Can you name specific examples?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Actually no, this tracks. This guy is a specific example of another working class person actively fighting to protect the exploitative system -- check his post history -- proving it's not just the rich doing it.

    🤔 Though this is the second thread I found him in today, and not the first time I've seen him do it on Lemmy. I do wonder if he's a genuine loyalist or if he was hired by someone to come in here and concern troll for the ruling class.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Pretty much the definition of powerful right? As in they have the power

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    You should do some reading into complex systems analysis. No one is putting everything on any specific individual. The system we live in acts similarly to a living being. It broadly seeks to exist in perpetuity and will do what it can to see that through. In our societal system the more money you have, the more powerful you are and the powerful implement systems to further expand and entrench their power. They're benefactors of a violent and corrupt system that runs on exploitation and they have a responsibility to dismantle it. They never will so everyone else needs to do it for them.

  • source
  • parent