Bernie’s performance in the primary was enough of a demonstration.
In 2016, when his success was overwhelmingly due to anti-Hillary sentiment? Bernie won West fucking Virginia, for Christ's sake. It's not because Bernie or progressivism was popular there. Or in 2020, when Bernie won a whopping 26% of the vote?
The DNC’s obstinacy can’t be spun as ignorance after the lengths they went to to keep Bernie down (and, you know, primary results). The point has been demonstrated and they don’t fucking care; make of that what you will.
It's not ignorance. It's complacency - a complacency that is enabled by progressive detachment from Dem politics. Progressives regularly fail to demonstrate significant electoral pull, and then question why no one fucking listens to us.
What’s happening on Lemmy is a bunch of basement dwellers (including yours truly) yelling at each other. Nobody with any real amount of reach is saying this; that’s why Uncommitted (even though they didn’t even say “don’t vote for Harris”) was such a big deal and why so many progressives fucking hated it.
Alright, but considering that many groups involved with the Uncommitted movement ended up, afterwards, explicitly saying "Don't vote for Harris"...?
I remember in 2024 that for every one person even remotely critical of Biden or Harris there would be nine people calling them everything from undercover MAGA to a Russian troll to a useful idiot and downvoted to hell.
Considering that many of them were and remain useful idiots peddling the exact same talking points now as they were then about how voting is implicitly (or sometimes explicitly) worthless?
You also don't seem to remember the ratios very well, considering that such users were highly upvoted and comment chains filled with their supporters; rarely did it drop under 50-50, and the asspat brigade was always there to fluff them.
The anti-leftist crusades still haven’t ended, despite left-leaning voters having overwhelmingly voted for Harris
And yet of the 10 million votes lost between 2020 and 2024, they were overwhelmingly lost from young, progressive voters who cited progressive issues as their reason for not voting for Harris.
and most non-voters by far being moderates.
One expects right-wing ghouls to be idiots who are okay with increased suffering for marginalized demographics. Leftists who claim to believe otherwise and then act in direct contradiction to those stated values are a bit more jarring.
There’s a loud anti-Democrat minority, but reality has clearly and repeatedly demonstrated how the majority of progressives feel about this.
There's a loud and influential anti-Democrat minority whose effect is multiplicative on the already small turnouts of Dem primaries.
If 2% of the electorate convinces another 2% of the electorate not to vote, that's 8% of the votes lost in a general election with a typical turnout of ~50%, and 20% of the votes in a primary election with a typical turnout of ~20%
The majority of progressives voting is hindered by that very real and significant minority, especially when general elections are won on margins of 1-2% of the actively voting electorate and primaries demonstrate to parties the general sentiment of the party's base.