โฒ 783 โผ Public transit in Toronto, Canada ๐จ๐ฆ vs Chengdu, China ๐จ๐ณ (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world 292 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[โ] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Wrong, the state owns the land but you can own the house, and not just for your 70y BS period. There are plenty of articles like of instances where homeowners don't want to sell for infrastructure like this: https://twistedsifter.com/2012/11/china-builds-highway-around-house/ I know for a fact here in EU or the US they will indeed " just tells you to gtfo" BTW, in China a high 90% of people OWN their house and aren't rentslaves. So there's that China bad man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] protist@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) It's hard to overstate how much safer and more ethical it is to use eminent domain and fairly compensate someone monetarily for their property than to leave their house in the middle of a highway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's besides the point wether you think it's better or not, it should be the OWNER's decision as is the case in China. And not what this rustydomino is pulling out of his ass. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] protist@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) No it's not besides the point, it's in direct response to your point. Leaving a house in the middle of the highway is a better outcome for no one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The discussion was about having rights of ownership and on the decision, not anyone's opinion what is better. So you're completely besides the point even if you can't admit this obvious fact. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) I'm sure the developers offered "fair compensation", you need to demand lot before fucking up the highway design is more economical than meeting their offer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In the US, the government provides compensation, not developers, and they pay fair market value as determined by local appraisal districts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago The main difference here seems to be that the US can compell property owners to accept what they determine is a fair market rate, but another poster informed me that in some cases the chinese can compell people to sell too. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] protist@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) It's hard to overstate how much safer and more ethical it is to use eminent domain and fairly compensate someone monetarily for their property than to leave their house in the middle of a highway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's besides the point wether you think it's better or not, it should be the OWNER's decision as is the case in China. And not what this rustydomino is pulling out of his ass. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] protist@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) No it's not besides the point, it's in direct response to your point. Leaving a house in the middle of the highway is a better outcome for no one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The discussion was about having rights of ownership and on the decision, not anyone's opinion what is better. So you're completely besides the point even if you can't admit this obvious fact. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) I'm sure the developers offered "fair compensation", you need to demand lot before fucking up the highway design is more economical than meeting their offer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In the US, the government provides compensation, not developers, and they pay fair market value as determined by local appraisal districts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago The main difference here seems to be that the US can compell property owners to accept what they determine is a fair market rate, but another poster informed me that in some cases the chinese can compell people to sell too. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's besides the point wether you think it's better or not, it should be the OWNER's decision as is the case in China. And not what this rustydomino is pulling out of his ass. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] protist@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) No it's not besides the point, it's in direct response to your point. Leaving a house in the middle of the highway is a better outcome for no one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The discussion was about having rights of ownership and on the decision, not anyone's opinion what is better. So you're completely besides the point even if you can't admit this obvious fact. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] protist@mander.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) No it's not besides the point, it's in direct response to your point. Leaving a house in the middle of the highway is a better outcome for no one permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The discussion was about having rights of ownership and on the decision, not anyone's opinion what is better. So you're completely besides the point even if you can't admit this obvious fact. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago The discussion was about having rights of ownership and on the decision, not anyone's opinion what is better. So you're completely besides the point even if you can't admit this obvious fact. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) I'm sure the developers offered "fair compensation", you need to demand lot before fucking up the highway design is more economical than meeting their offer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In the US, the government provides compensation, not developers, and they pay fair market value as determined by local appraisal districts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago The main difference here seems to be that the US can compell property owners to accept what they determine is a fair market rate, but another poster informed me that in some cases the chinese can compell people to sell too. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) In the US, the government provides compensation, not developers, and they pay fair market value as determined by local appraisal districts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago The main difference here seems to be that the US can compell property owners to accept what they determine is a fair market rate, but another poster informed me that in some cases the chinese can compell people to sell too. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago The main difference here seems to be that the US can compell property owners to accept what they determine is a fair market rate, but another poster informed me that in some cases the chinese can compell people to sell too. permalink fedilink source parent