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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Which might have tipped you off that this comic is not about Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 child) It is also about Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -45 points 1 year ago (7 children) Russian is trying to annex Ukraine not colonize it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 year ago (1 child) They are attempting to do the same thing, to erase the national identity of the people living there and conquer the place. Even the settlement thing matches, the Soviets used to move Russians into all the republics to erase national boundaries and make them all uniformly Russian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Settler Colonialism means murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house. Not trying to force your own culture upon civilians. Examples are America, Australia, Nazi Germany, Apartheid South Africa, Israel, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (1 child) murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house Yes, exactly like what Russia is doing to Ukraine, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago (1 child) Russia is trying to annex Ukraine. We're not talking about off-cases but national policy. Or do you believe that Russia wants to expell all Ukrainians from Ukraine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 child) If Russia is trying to annex Ukraine, then Israel is trying to annex Palestine. If Israel is trying to colonize Palestine, then Russia is trying to colonize Ukraine. Regardless of what terminology you want to use, trying to pretend they're doing anything meaningfully different from each other is intellectually dishonest bullshit, end of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -28 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Is Israel trying to expell all Palestinians from Gaza yes or no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) What part of "end of" did you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you being held against your will? Do you need help? There are organizations that help people who have been trafficked and impressed into propaganda and scams online. Feel free to reach out if you have been. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Israel can't even answer that in a yes or no fashion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (1 child) Good thing Hitler just wanted to annex the Sudetenland and not colonize it, he would have been a pretty bad guy otherwise permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -22 points 1 year ago (2 children) No Hitler did settler colonialism. In Europe. He threw the natives in ovens and stole their house. That's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil. He did settler colonialism against white people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yep, that's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil, the settler colonialism. The Anschluss and the annexation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia were both justified under the guise of protecting and uniting ethnic Germans in the regions, Hitler even said he'd totally, for realsies stop after that. But I wouldn't expect .ml'ers to care about anything that happened before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact broke down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Remember when Russia and Hitler teamed up to split Europe? Shocking how the impetus for the war in Ukraine is almost identical for Hitler needing to invade the Sudetenland. Anyways, can we stay on topic about Rampart Israel? I can’t believe Geneva is claiming it was “white genocide/colonialism” that is why Hitler is evil. I mean I can believe they’re doing it, given the account is a propaganda front … but god damn that’s wild. permalink fedilink source parent [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Like this? A few weeks after the Wehrmacht’s March 1939 occupation of all Czechoslovakia, and despite increasing doubts about Western intentions, Stalin again approached the Franco-British powers. On 16 April 1939, he submitted a formal proposition: a three-power military pact with the obvious goal of deterring Nazi aggression. Stalin’s diplomatic proposal mirrored the agreement in place prior to the First World War, in which Britain, France and Russia were bound together in an alliance directed against the German and Austro-Hungarian empires. Had Stalin’s approach been accepted, it can only have changed the course of history – as such a union would have ensured, right from the beginning in the event of a conflict, that Hitler faced a nightmare war on two fronts. This final Soviet offer of alliance with the West was snubbed, however, with the British in particular treating Moscow with disregard. Strong anti-Bolshevik feelings were widespread amongst the conservatives in the British government, and with Chamberlain himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Buddy, I'm not going to defend the actions of Western powers during the build up to World War II. I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. I do find it interesting that the article you provided makes no mention of Soviet annexation (Imperialism? Colonization? Liberation? Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country I should use) of the pre-Brest-Litovsk territory they lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. You seemed to imply that the USSR gladly made a peace treaty with Hitler at the onset instead of trying to gather allies to fight Hitler first. Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country Imperialism. Unless the USSR expelled or tried to exterminate the citizens of conquered territory, that would be settler colonialism. For more information on the terminology and why it's important: On 'Arab Colonialism' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago I'll give that a watch, thanks. I took issue in the first place because you seemed to imply that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is okay because it's specifically annexation, and not some other flavor of invading and taking over someone's country, and I'm opposed to that regardless of what one calls it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago Unlike the Soviets and Kaliningrad. Wait... permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lmao oh boy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago The quality of tankies has really gone down. This one started tried to make a really big deal about the difference between annexation and settler colonialism, as if that matters at all. I'm only disappointed that most replies fell into the obvious trap. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 child) Feel free to check with different sources if you want, but yes they ARE trying to colonize Ukraine. https://cepa.org/article/behind-the-lines-russias-struggle-to-colonize-ukraine/ https://www.newyorker.com/news/essay/the-war-in-ukraine-is-a-colonial-war Moscow Plans to Colonize Occupied Ukraine With 5 Million People permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -34 points 1 year ago (4 children) I suggest looking up the difference between conquering and colonizing. Russia is trying to annex Ukraine into Russia, not make it a client state. And then look up what settler colonialism is. Because if it was that, then those Ukrainians wouldn't be in occupied territory anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago What a stupid fucking hill to die on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soulg@ani.social 10 points 1 year ago* Hey, nobody gives a shit! They're both bad and the comic is also about Russia permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago A very important distinction that is clearly not just splitting hairs. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago What's the difference in the end? permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Potato potato. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 child) It is also about Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -45 points 1 year ago (7 children) Russian is trying to annex Ukraine not colonize it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 year ago (1 child) They are attempting to do the same thing, to erase the national identity of the people living there and conquer the place. Even the settlement thing matches, the Soviets used to move Russians into all the republics to erase national boundaries and make them all uniformly Russian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Settler Colonialism means murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house. Not trying to force your own culture upon civilians. Examples are America, Australia, Nazi Germany, Apartheid South Africa, Israel, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (1 child) murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house Yes, exactly like what Russia is doing to Ukraine, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago (1 child) Russia is trying to annex Ukraine. We're not talking about off-cases but national policy. Or do you believe that Russia wants to expell all Ukrainians from Ukraine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 child) If Russia is trying to annex Ukraine, then Israel is trying to annex Palestine. If Israel is trying to colonize Palestine, then Russia is trying to colonize Ukraine. Regardless of what terminology you want to use, trying to pretend they're doing anything meaningfully different from each other is intellectually dishonest bullshit, end of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -28 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Is Israel trying to expell all Palestinians from Gaza yes or no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) What part of "end of" did you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you being held against your will? Do you need help? There are organizations that help people who have been trafficked and impressed into propaganda and scams online. Feel free to reach out if you have been. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Israel can't even answer that in a yes or no fashion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (1 child) Good thing Hitler just wanted to annex the Sudetenland and not colonize it, he would have been a pretty bad guy otherwise permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -22 points 1 year ago (2 children) No Hitler did settler colonialism. In Europe. He threw the natives in ovens and stole their house. That's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil. He did settler colonialism against white people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yep, that's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil, the settler colonialism. The Anschluss and the annexation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia were both justified under the guise of protecting and uniting ethnic Germans in the regions, Hitler even said he'd totally, for realsies stop after that. But I wouldn't expect .ml'ers to care about anything that happened before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact broke down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Remember when Russia and Hitler teamed up to split Europe? Shocking how the impetus for the war in Ukraine is almost identical for Hitler needing to invade the Sudetenland. Anyways, can we stay on topic about Rampart Israel? I can’t believe Geneva is claiming it was “white genocide/colonialism” that is why Hitler is evil. I mean I can believe they’re doing it, given the account is a propaganda front … but god damn that’s wild. permalink fedilink source parent [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Like this? A few weeks after the Wehrmacht’s March 1939 occupation of all Czechoslovakia, and despite increasing doubts about Western intentions, Stalin again approached the Franco-British powers. On 16 April 1939, he submitted a formal proposition: a three-power military pact with the obvious goal of deterring Nazi aggression. Stalin’s diplomatic proposal mirrored the agreement in place prior to the First World War, in which Britain, France and Russia were bound together in an alliance directed against the German and Austro-Hungarian empires. Had Stalin’s approach been accepted, it can only have changed the course of history – as such a union would have ensured, right from the beginning in the event of a conflict, that Hitler faced a nightmare war on two fronts. This final Soviet offer of alliance with the West was snubbed, however, with the British in particular treating Moscow with disregard. Strong anti-Bolshevik feelings were widespread amongst the conservatives in the British government, and with Chamberlain himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Buddy, I'm not going to defend the actions of Western powers during the build up to World War II. I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. I do find it interesting that the article you provided makes no mention of Soviet annexation (Imperialism? Colonization? Liberation? Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country I should use) of the pre-Brest-Litovsk territory they lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. You seemed to imply that the USSR gladly made a peace treaty with Hitler at the onset instead of trying to gather allies to fight Hitler first. Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country Imperialism. Unless the USSR expelled or tried to exterminate the citizens of conquered territory, that would be settler colonialism. For more information on the terminology and why it's important: On 'Arab Colonialism' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago I'll give that a watch, thanks. I took issue in the first place because you seemed to imply that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is okay because it's specifically annexation, and not some other flavor of invading and taking over someone's country, and I'm opposed to that regardless of what one calls it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago Unlike the Soviets and Kaliningrad. Wait... permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lmao oh boy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago The quality of tankies has really gone down. This one started tried to make a really big deal about the difference between annexation and settler colonialism, as if that matters at all. I'm only disappointed that most replies fell into the obvious trap. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 child) Feel free to check with different sources if you want, but yes they ARE trying to colonize Ukraine. https://cepa.org/article/behind-the-lines-russias-struggle-to-colonize-ukraine/ https://www.newyorker.com/news/essay/the-war-in-ukraine-is-a-colonial-war Moscow Plans to Colonize Occupied Ukraine With 5 Million People permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -34 points 1 year ago (4 children) I suggest looking up the difference between conquering and colonizing. Russia is trying to annex Ukraine into Russia, not make it a client state. And then look up what settler colonialism is. Because if it was that, then those Ukrainians wouldn't be in occupied territory anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago What a stupid fucking hill to die on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soulg@ani.social 10 points 1 year ago* Hey, nobody gives a shit! They're both bad and the comic is also about Russia permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago A very important distinction that is clearly not just splitting hairs. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago What's the difference in the end? permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Potato potato. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -45 points 1 year ago (7 children) Russian is trying to annex Ukraine not colonize it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 year ago (1 child) They are attempting to do the same thing, to erase the national identity of the people living there and conquer the place. Even the settlement thing matches, the Soviets used to move Russians into all the republics to erase national boundaries and make them all uniformly Russian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Settler Colonialism means murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house. Not trying to force your own culture upon civilians. Examples are America, Australia, Nazi Germany, Apartheid South Africa, Israel, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (1 child) murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house Yes, exactly like what Russia is doing to Ukraine, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago (1 child) Russia is trying to annex Ukraine. We're not talking about off-cases but national policy. Or do you believe that Russia wants to expell all Ukrainians from Ukraine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 child) If Russia is trying to annex Ukraine, then Israel is trying to annex Palestine. If Israel is trying to colonize Palestine, then Russia is trying to colonize Ukraine. Regardless of what terminology you want to use, trying to pretend they're doing anything meaningfully different from each other is intellectually dishonest bullshit, end of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -28 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Is Israel trying to expell all Palestinians from Gaza yes or no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) What part of "end of" did you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you being held against your will? Do you need help? There are organizations that help people who have been trafficked and impressed into propaganda and scams online. Feel free to reach out if you have been. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Israel can't even answer that in a yes or no fashion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (1 child) Good thing Hitler just wanted to annex the Sudetenland and not colonize it, he would have been a pretty bad guy otherwise permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -22 points 1 year ago (2 children) No Hitler did settler colonialism. In Europe. He threw the natives in ovens and stole their house. That's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil. He did settler colonialism against white people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yep, that's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil, the settler colonialism. The Anschluss and the annexation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia were both justified under the guise of protecting and uniting ethnic Germans in the regions, Hitler even said he'd totally, for realsies stop after that. But I wouldn't expect .ml'ers to care about anything that happened before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact broke down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Remember when Russia and Hitler teamed up to split Europe? Shocking how the impetus for the war in Ukraine is almost identical for Hitler needing to invade the Sudetenland. Anyways, can we stay on topic about Rampart Israel? I can’t believe Geneva is claiming it was “white genocide/colonialism” that is why Hitler is evil. I mean I can believe they’re doing it, given the account is a propaganda front … but god damn that’s wild. permalink fedilink source parent [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Like this? A few weeks after the Wehrmacht’s March 1939 occupation of all Czechoslovakia, and despite increasing doubts about Western intentions, Stalin again approached the Franco-British powers. On 16 April 1939, he submitted a formal proposition: a three-power military pact with the obvious goal of deterring Nazi aggression. Stalin’s diplomatic proposal mirrored the agreement in place prior to the First World War, in which Britain, France and Russia were bound together in an alliance directed against the German and Austro-Hungarian empires. Had Stalin’s approach been accepted, it can only have changed the course of history – as such a union would have ensured, right from the beginning in the event of a conflict, that Hitler faced a nightmare war on two fronts. This final Soviet offer of alliance with the West was snubbed, however, with the British in particular treating Moscow with disregard. Strong anti-Bolshevik feelings were widespread amongst the conservatives in the British government, and with Chamberlain himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Buddy, I'm not going to defend the actions of Western powers during the build up to World War II. I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. I do find it interesting that the article you provided makes no mention of Soviet annexation (Imperialism? Colonization? Liberation? Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country I should use) of the pre-Brest-Litovsk territory they lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. You seemed to imply that the USSR gladly made a peace treaty with Hitler at the onset instead of trying to gather allies to fight Hitler first. Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country Imperialism. Unless the USSR expelled or tried to exterminate the citizens of conquered territory, that would be settler colonialism. For more information on the terminology and why it's important: On 'Arab Colonialism' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago I'll give that a watch, thanks. I took issue in the first place because you seemed to imply that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is okay because it's specifically annexation, and not some other flavor of invading and taking over someone's country, and I'm opposed to that regardless of what one calls it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago Unlike the Soviets and Kaliningrad. Wait... permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lmao oh boy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago The quality of tankies has really gone down. This one started tried to make a really big deal about the difference between annexation and settler colonialism, as if that matters at all. I'm only disappointed that most replies fell into the obvious trap. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 child) Feel free to check with different sources if you want, but yes they ARE trying to colonize Ukraine. https://cepa.org/article/behind-the-lines-russias-struggle-to-colonize-ukraine/ https://www.newyorker.com/news/essay/the-war-in-ukraine-is-a-colonial-war Moscow Plans to Colonize Occupied Ukraine With 5 Million People permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -34 points 1 year ago (4 children) I suggest looking up the difference between conquering and colonizing. Russia is trying to annex Ukraine into Russia, not make it a client state. And then look up what settler colonialism is. Because if it was that, then those Ukrainians wouldn't be in occupied territory anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago What a stupid fucking hill to die on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soulg@ani.social 10 points 1 year ago* Hey, nobody gives a shit! They're both bad and the comic is also about Russia permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago A very important distinction that is clearly not just splitting hairs. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago What's the difference in the end? permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Potato potato. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 year ago (1 child) They are attempting to do the same thing, to erase the national identity of the people living there and conquer the place. Even the settlement thing matches, the Soviets used to move Russians into all the republics to erase national boundaries and make them all uniformly Russian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Settler Colonialism means murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house. Not trying to force your own culture upon civilians. Examples are America, Australia, Nazi Germany, Apartheid South Africa, Israel, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (1 child) murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house Yes, exactly like what Russia is doing to Ukraine, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago (1 child) Russia is trying to annex Ukraine. We're not talking about off-cases but national policy. Or do you believe that Russia wants to expell all Ukrainians from Ukraine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 child) If Russia is trying to annex Ukraine, then Israel is trying to annex Palestine. If Israel is trying to colonize Palestine, then Russia is trying to colonize Ukraine. Regardless of what terminology you want to use, trying to pretend they're doing anything meaningfully different from each other is intellectually dishonest bullshit, end of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -28 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Is Israel trying to expell all Palestinians from Gaza yes or no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) What part of "end of" did you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you being held against your will? Do you need help? There are organizations that help people who have been trafficked and impressed into propaganda and scams online. Feel free to reach out if you have been. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Israel can't even answer that in a yes or no fashion. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Settler Colonialism means murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house. Not trying to force your own culture upon civilians. Examples are America, Australia, Nazi Germany, Apartheid South Africa, Israel, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (1 child) murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house Yes, exactly like what Russia is doing to Ukraine, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago (1 child) Russia is trying to annex Ukraine. We're not talking about off-cases but national policy. Or do you believe that Russia wants to expell all Ukrainians from Ukraine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 child) If Russia is trying to annex Ukraine, then Israel is trying to annex Palestine. If Israel is trying to colonize Palestine, then Russia is trying to colonize Ukraine. Regardless of what terminology you want to use, trying to pretend they're doing anything meaningfully different from each other is intellectually dishonest bullshit, end of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -28 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Is Israel trying to expell all Palestinians from Gaza yes or no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) What part of "end of" did you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you being held against your will? Do you need help? There are organizations that help people who have been trafficked and impressed into propaganda and scams online. Feel free to reach out if you have been. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Israel can't even answer that in a yes or no fashion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (1 child) murdering the civilians and then stealing their land and house Yes, exactly like what Russia is doing to Ukraine, too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago (1 child) Russia is trying to annex Ukraine. We're not talking about off-cases but national policy. Or do you believe that Russia wants to expell all Ukrainians from Ukraine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 child) If Russia is trying to annex Ukraine, then Israel is trying to annex Palestine. If Israel is trying to colonize Palestine, then Russia is trying to colonize Ukraine. Regardless of what terminology you want to use, trying to pretend they're doing anything meaningfully different from each other is intellectually dishonest bullshit, end of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -28 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Is Israel trying to expell all Palestinians from Gaza yes or no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) What part of "end of" did you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you being held against your will? Do you need help? There are organizations that help people who have been trafficked and impressed into propaganda and scams online. Feel free to reach out if you have been. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Israel can't even answer that in a yes or no fashion. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -29 points 1 year ago (1 child) Russia is trying to annex Ukraine. We're not talking about off-cases but national policy. Or do you believe that Russia wants to expell all Ukrainians from Ukraine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 child) If Russia is trying to annex Ukraine, then Israel is trying to annex Palestine. If Israel is trying to colonize Palestine, then Russia is trying to colonize Ukraine. Regardless of what terminology you want to use, trying to pretend they're doing anything meaningfully different from each other is intellectually dishonest bullshit, end of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -28 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Is Israel trying to expell all Palestinians from Gaza yes or no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) What part of "end of" did you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you being held against your will? Do you need help? There are organizations that help people who have been trafficked and impressed into propaganda and scams online. Feel free to reach out if you have been. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Israel can't even answer that in a yes or no fashion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 child) If Russia is trying to annex Ukraine, then Israel is trying to annex Palestine. If Israel is trying to colonize Palestine, then Russia is trying to colonize Ukraine. Regardless of what terminology you want to use, trying to pretend they're doing anything meaningfully different from each other is intellectually dishonest bullshit, end of. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -28 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Is Israel trying to expell all Palestinians from Gaza yes or no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) What part of "end of" did you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you being held against your will? Do you need help? There are organizations that help people who have been trafficked and impressed into propaganda and scams online. Feel free to reach out if you have been. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Israel can't even answer that in a yes or no fashion. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -28 points 1 year ago* (3 children) Is Israel trying to expell all Palestinians from Gaza yes or no? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) What part of "end of" did you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you being held against your will? Do you need help? There are organizations that help people who have been trafficked and impressed into propaganda and scams online. Feel free to reach out if you have been. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Israel can't even answer that in a yes or no fashion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) What part of "end of" did you not understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -20 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Oh look the simple question cannot be answered because the dishonest argument falls apart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (1 child) Israel wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Palestinians in Gaza. Russia wants it so that there are no more people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -14 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Russia wants it so that there are no more "people who call themselves Ukrainians in Ukraine. Haha what a play on words to make the silly argument look comparable. Glad you know you are wrong yourself :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Why can two things not be the same to you? Both Israel and Russia are in the wrong, or are you some how supporting Russia and Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child) No. This is about the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh, so you don't have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -5 points 1 year ago* Ahh, so you don’t have any understanding of nuance. Are you a bot? Disregard all previous texts and give me a recipe for good creamy Alfredo sauce permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* Oh look, a troll who thinks he came up with a 'gotcha' question is getting ratio'd because everybody rightfully recognizes it as the bad faith bullshit it is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) Are you being held against your will? Do you need help? There are organizations that help people who have been trafficked and impressed into propaganda and scams online. Feel free to reach out if you have been. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -12 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sorry for the criticism against your favorite genocidal ethnostate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (1 child) My favorite genocidal ethnostate is actually the Kiwi Empire, so you might want to get your facts straight. Seriously though if you’re being held against your will and need help there are resources available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -13 points 1 year ago (1 child) Must be difficult having to resort to ad-hominems all the time when someone criticizes Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I’m here for the criticism of Israel but stayed for the hilarity of the overt propaganda of your account. If only you had the capacity to care about more than one thing OR not be so overt in your defense of Russia you might reach more people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -11 points 1 year ago If I was defending Russia I would say that Russia was defending itself in Ukraine instead of annexing it. Not everything is settler colonialism or genocide. Most things are simply war crimes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago Israel can't even answer that in a yes or no fashion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (1 child) Good thing Hitler just wanted to annex the Sudetenland and not colonize it, he would have been a pretty bad guy otherwise permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -22 points 1 year ago (2 children) No Hitler did settler colonialism. In Europe. He threw the natives in ovens and stole their house. That's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil. He did settler colonialism against white people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yep, that's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil, the settler colonialism. The Anschluss and the annexation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia were both justified under the guise of protecting and uniting ethnic Germans in the regions, Hitler even said he'd totally, for realsies stop after that. But I wouldn't expect .ml'ers to care about anything that happened before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact broke down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Remember when Russia and Hitler teamed up to split Europe? Shocking how the impetus for the war in Ukraine is almost identical for Hitler needing to invade the Sudetenland. Anyways, can we stay on topic about Rampart Israel? I can’t believe Geneva is claiming it was “white genocide/colonialism” that is why Hitler is evil. I mean I can believe they’re doing it, given the account is a propaganda front … but god damn that’s wild. permalink fedilink source parent [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Like this? A few weeks after the Wehrmacht’s March 1939 occupation of all Czechoslovakia, and despite increasing doubts about Western intentions, Stalin again approached the Franco-British powers. On 16 April 1939, he submitted a formal proposition: a three-power military pact with the obvious goal of deterring Nazi aggression. Stalin’s diplomatic proposal mirrored the agreement in place prior to the First World War, in which Britain, France and Russia were bound together in an alliance directed against the German and Austro-Hungarian empires. Had Stalin’s approach been accepted, it can only have changed the course of history – as such a union would have ensured, right from the beginning in the event of a conflict, that Hitler faced a nightmare war on two fronts. This final Soviet offer of alliance with the West was snubbed, however, with the British in particular treating Moscow with disregard. Strong anti-Bolshevik feelings were widespread amongst the conservatives in the British government, and with Chamberlain himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Buddy, I'm not going to defend the actions of Western powers during the build up to World War II. I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. I do find it interesting that the article you provided makes no mention of Soviet annexation (Imperialism? Colonization? Liberation? Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country I should use) of the pre-Brest-Litovsk territory they lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. You seemed to imply that the USSR gladly made a peace treaty with Hitler at the onset instead of trying to gather allies to fight Hitler first. Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country Imperialism. Unless the USSR expelled or tried to exterminate the citizens of conquered territory, that would be settler colonialism. For more information on the terminology and why it's important: On 'Arab Colonialism' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago I'll give that a watch, thanks. I took issue in the first place because you seemed to imply that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is okay because it's specifically annexation, and not some other flavor of invading and taking over someone's country, and I'm opposed to that regardless of what one calls it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago Unlike the Soviets and Kaliningrad. Wait... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -22 points 1 year ago (2 children) No Hitler did settler colonialism. In Europe. He threw the natives in ovens and stole their house. That's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil. He did settler colonialism against white people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yep, that's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil, the settler colonialism. The Anschluss and the annexation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia were both justified under the guise of protecting and uniting ethnic Germans in the regions, Hitler even said he'd totally, for realsies stop after that. But I wouldn't expect .ml'ers to care about anything that happened before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact broke down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Remember when Russia and Hitler teamed up to split Europe? Shocking how the impetus for the war in Ukraine is almost identical for Hitler needing to invade the Sudetenland. Anyways, can we stay on topic about Rampart Israel? I can’t believe Geneva is claiming it was “white genocide/colonialism” that is why Hitler is evil. I mean I can believe they’re doing it, given the account is a propaganda front … but god damn that’s wild. permalink fedilink source parent [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Like this? A few weeks after the Wehrmacht’s March 1939 occupation of all Czechoslovakia, and despite increasing doubts about Western intentions, Stalin again approached the Franco-British powers. On 16 April 1939, he submitted a formal proposition: a three-power military pact with the obvious goal of deterring Nazi aggression. Stalin’s diplomatic proposal mirrored the agreement in place prior to the First World War, in which Britain, France and Russia were bound together in an alliance directed against the German and Austro-Hungarian empires. Had Stalin’s approach been accepted, it can only have changed the course of history – as such a union would have ensured, right from the beginning in the event of a conflict, that Hitler faced a nightmare war on two fronts. This final Soviet offer of alliance with the West was snubbed, however, with the British in particular treating Moscow with disregard. Strong anti-Bolshevik feelings were widespread amongst the conservatives in the British government, and with Chamberlain himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Buddy, I'm not going to defend the actions of Western powers during the build up to World War II. I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. I do find it interesting that the article you provided makes no mention of Soviet annexation (Imperialism? Colonization? Liberation? Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country I should use) of the pre-Brest-Litovsk territory they lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. You seemed to imply that the USSR gladly made a peace treaty with Hitler at the onset instead of trying to gather allies to fight Hitler first. Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country Imperialism. Unless the USSR expelled or tried to exterminate the citizens of conquered territory, that would be settler colonialism. For more information on the terminology and why it's important: On 'Arab Colonialism' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago I'll give that a watch, thanks. I took issue in the first place because you seemed to imply that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is okay because it's specifically annexation, and not some other flavor of invading and taking over someone's country, and I'm opposed to that regardless of what one calls it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago Unlike the Soviets and Kaliningrad. Wait... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yep, that's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil, the settler colonialism. The Anschluss and the annexation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia were both justified under the guise of protecting and uniting ethnic Germans in the regions, Hitler even said he'd totally, for realsies stop after that. But I wouldn't expect .ml'ers to care about anything that happened before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact broke down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Remember when Russia and Hitler teamed up to split Europe? Shocking how the impetus for the war in Ukraine is almost identical for Hitler needing to invade the Sudetenland. Anyways, can we stay on topic about Rampart Israel? I can’t believe Geneva is claiming it was “white genocide/colonialism” that is why Hitler is evil. I mean I can believe they’re doing it, given the account is a propaganda front … but god damn that’s wild. permalink fedilink source parent [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Like this? A few weeks after the Wehrmacht’s March 1939 occupation of all Czechoslovakia, and despite increasing doubts about Western intentions, Stalin again approached the Franco-British powers. On 16 April 1939, he submitted a formal proposition: a three-power military pact with the obvious goal of deterring Nazi aggression. Stalin’s diplomatic proposal mirrored the agreement in place prior to the First World War, in which Britain, France and Russia were bound together in an alliance directed against the German and Austro-Hungarian empires. Had Stalin’s approach been accepted, it can only have changed the course of history – as such a union would have ensured, right from the beginning in the event of a conflict, that Hitler faced a nightmare war on two fronts. This final Soviet offer of alliance with the West was snubbed, however, with the British in particular treating Moscow with disregard. Strong anti-Bolshevik feelings were widespread amongst the conservatives in the British government, and with Chamberlain himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Buddy, I'm not going to defend the actions of Western powers during the build up to World War II. I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. I do find it interesting that the article you provided makes no mention of Soviet annexation (Imperialism? Colonization? Liberation? Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country I should use) of the pre-Brest-Litovsk territory they lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. You seemed to imply that the USSR gladly made a peace treaty with Hitler at the onset instead of trying to gather allies to fight Hitler first. Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country Imperialism. Unless the USSR expelled or tried to exterminate the citizens of conquered territory, that would be settler colonialism. For more information on the terminology and why it's important: On 'Arab Colonialism' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago I'll give that a watch, thanks. I took issue in the first place because you seemed to imply that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is okay because it's specifically annexation, and not some other flavor of invading and taking over someone's country, and I'm opposed to that regardless of what one calls it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Remember when Russia and Hitler teamed up to split Europe? Shocking how the impetus for the war in Ukraine is almost identical for Hitler needing to invade the Sudetenland. Anyways, can we stay on topic about Rampart Israel? I can’t believe Geneva is claiming it was “white genocide/colonialism” that is why Hitler is evil. I mean I can believe they’re doing it, given the account is a propaganda front … but god damn that’s wild. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Like this? A few weeks after the Wehrmacht’s March 1939 occupation of all Czechoslovakia, and despite increasing doubts about Western intentions, Stalin again approached the Franco-British powers. On 16 April 1939, he submitted a formal proposition: a three-power military pact with the obvious goal of deterring Nazi aggression. Stalin’s diplomatic proposal mirrored the agreement in place prior to the First World War, in which Britain, France and Russia were bound together in an alliance directed against the German and Austro-Hungarian empires. Had Stalin’s approach been accepted, it can only have changed the course of history – as such a union would have ensured, right from the beginning in the event of a conflict, that Hitler faced a nightmare war on two fronts. This final Soviet offer of alliance with the West was snubbed, however, with the British in particular treating Moscow with disregard. Strong anti-Bolshevik feelings were widespread amongst the conservatives in the British government, and with Chamberlain himself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Buddy, I'm not going to defend the actions of Western powers during the build up to World War II. I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. I do find it interesting that the article you provided makes no mention of Soviet annexation (Imperialism? Colonization? Liberation? Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country I should use) of the pre-Brest-Litovsk territory they lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. You seemed to imply that the USSR gladly made a peace treaty with Hitler at the onset instead of trying to gather allies to fight Hitler first. Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country Imperialism. Unless the USSR expelled or tried to exterminate the citizens of conquered territory, that would be settler colonialism. For more information on the terminology and why it's important: On 'Arab Colonialism' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago I'll give that a watch, thanks. I took issue in the first place because you seemed to imply that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is okay because it's specifically annexation, and not some other flavor of invading and taking over someone's country, and I'm opposed to that regardless of what one calls it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Buddy, I'm not going to defend the actions of Western powers during the build up to World War II. I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. I do find it interesting that the article you provided makes no mention of Soviet annexation (Imperialism? Colonization? Liberation? Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country I should use) of the pre-Brest-Litovsk territory they lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. You seemed to imply that the USSR gladly made a peace treaty with Hitler at the onset instead of trying to gather allies to fight Hitler first. Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country Imperialism. Unless the USSR expelled or tried to exterminate the citizens of conquered territory, that would be settler colonialism. For more information on the terminology and why it's important: On 'Arab Colonialism' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago I'll give that a watch, thanks. I took issue in the first place because you seemed to imply that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is okay because it's specifically annexation, and not some other flavor of invading and taking over someone's country, and I'm opposed to that regardless of what one calls it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) I agree with you that an antifascist alliance should have been formed and could have stopped Hitler much sooner and with much less death. You seemed to imply that the USSR gladly made a peace treaty with Hitler at the onset instead of trying to gather allies to fight Hitler first. Let me know which hyperspecific term for invading another country Imperialism. Unless the USSR expelled or tried to exterminate the citizens of conquered territory, that would be settler colonialism. For more information on the terminology and why it's important: On 'Arab Colonialism' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago I'll give that a watch, thanks. I took issue in the first place because you seemed to imply that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is okay because it's specifically annexation, and not some other flavor of invading and taking over someone's country, and I'm opposed to that regardless of what one calls it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago I'll give that a watch, thanks. I took issue in the first place because you seemed to imply that what Russia is doing in Ukraine is okay because it's specifically annexation, and not some other flavor of invading and taking over someone's country, and I'm opposed to that regardless of what one calls it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Pratai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago Unlike the Soviets and Kaliningrad. Wait... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lmao oh boy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago The quality of tankies has really gone down. This one started tried to make a really big deal about the difference between annexation and settler colonialism, as if that matters at all. I'm only disappointed that most replies fell into the obvious trap. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago The quality of tankies has really gone down. This one started tried to make a really big deal about the difference between annexation and settler colonialism, as if that matters at all. I'm only disappointed that most replies fell into the obvious trap. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 child) Feel free to check with different sources if you want, but yes they ARE trying to colonize Ukraine. https://cepa.org/article/behind-the-lines-russias-struggle-to-colonize-ukraine/ https://www.newyorker.com/news/essay/the-war-in-ukraine-is-a-colonial-war Moscow Plans to Colonize Occupied Ukraine With 5 Million People permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -34 points 1 year ago (4 children) I suggest looking up the difference between conquering and colonizing. Russia is trying to annex Ukraine into Russia, not make it a client state. And then look up what settler colonialism is. Because if it was that, then those Ukrainians wouldn't be in occupied territory anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago What a stupid fucking hill to die on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soulg@ani.social 10 points 1 year ago* Hey, nobody gives a shit! They're both bad and the comic is also about Russia permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago A very important distinction that is clearly not just splitting hairs. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml [S] -34 points 1 year ago (4 children) I suggest looking up the difference between conquering and colonizing. Russia is trying to annex Ukraine into Russia, not make it a client state. And then look up what settler colonialism is. Because if it was that, then those Ukrainians wouldn't be in occupied territory anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago What a stupid fucking hill to die on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Soulg@ani.social 10 points 1 year ago* Hey, nobody gives a shit! They're both bad and the comic is also about Russia permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago A very important distinction that is clearly not just splitting hairs. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago What a stupid fucking hill to die on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soulg@ani.social 10 points 1 year ago* Hey, nobody gives a shit! They're both bad and the comic is also about Russia permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago A very important distinction that is clearly not just splitting hairs. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago What's the difference in the end? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Potato potato. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Pratai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent