▲ 234 ▼ This is a lovely gesture, but also it's pretty sad (and very North American?) that if your car dies at the store you can't get home without relying on the tenuous kindness of strangers (pbs.twimg.com) submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by destructdisc@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world 118 comments fedilink hide all child comments This is apparently in Columbus, Ohio -- a pretty major city by any stretch of the imagination. And yet there are people who rail (geddit?) against 15-minute cities and efficient public transit that ensures no one ever gets stuck like this.
[+] scsi@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world [M] 1 point 1 year ago No, it isn't underappreciated. It is severely overappreciated -- i.e., it's a bullshit excuse that's been debunked over and over again. FYI, misinformation and bad-faith rhetoric, including whataboutism, is uncivil and violates rule 1 of this community. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) with vast portions of the land outside of larger cities without public transportation I mean, yeah? That's the OP's point? That too much for North America consists of poorly-designed car-centric urban planning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) not everyone wants to live in cities permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ok? And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) and they will use cars to get to the city to get things from store that are not available locally, like home depots and wall arts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ok? And the relevance of that small minority to either the principles of good urban design, or to the story in the OP is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) a logical reason why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago There are lots of logical reasons why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city. Even in a well-designed city many people will choose to do it. The lady in this story got stranded when her car broke down after she drove it to the store. That should not happen. She should have alternative options. permalink fedilink source parent [+] scsi@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago I'm not sure what you mean. I didn't hold out Australia as some bastion of urbanism. I simply reinforced OP's point that North America is bad. Australia is also terrible at this. It just wasn't relevant to mention. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world [M] 1 point 1 year ago No, it isn't underappreciated. It is severely overappreciated -- i.e., it's a bullshit excuse that's been debunked over and over again. FYI, misinformation and bad-faith rhetoric, including whataboutism, is uncivil and violates rule 1 of this community. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) with vast portions of the land outside of larger cities without public transportation I mean, yeah? That's the OP's point? That too much for North America consists of poorly-designed car-centric urban planning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) not everyone wants to live in cities permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ok? And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) and they will use cars to get to the city to get things from store that are not available locally, like home depots and wall arts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ok? And the relevance of that small minority to either the principles of good urban design, or to the story in the OP is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) a logical reason why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago There are lots of logical reasons why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city. Even in a well-designed city many people will choose to do it. The lady in this story got stranded when her car broke down after she drove it to the store. That should not happen. She should have alternative options. permalink fedilink source parent [+] scsi@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago I'm not sure what you mean. I didn't hold out Australia as some bastion of urbanism. I simply reinforced OP's point that North America is bad. Australia is also terrible at this. It just wasn't relevant to mention. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) not everyone wants to live in cities permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ok? And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) and they will use cars to get to the city to get things from store that are not available locally, like home depots and wall arts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ok? And the relevance of that small minority to either the principles of good urban design, or to the story in the OP is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) a logical reason why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago There are lots of logical reasons why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city. Even in a well-designed city many people will choose to do it. The lady in this story got stranded when her car broke down after she drove it to the store. That should not happen. She should have alternative options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ok? And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) and they will use cars to get to the city to get things from store that are not available locally, like home depots and wall arts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ok? And the relevance of that small minority to either the principles of good urban design, or to the story in the OP is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) a logical reason why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago There are lots of logical reasons why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city. Even in a well-designed city many people will choose to do it. The lady in this story got stranded when her car broke down after she drove it to the store. That should not happen. She should have alternative options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 child) and they will use cars to get to the city to get things from store that are not available locally, like home depots and wall arts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ok? And the relevance of that small minority to either the principles of good urban design, or to the story in the OP is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) a logical reason why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago There are lots of logical reasons why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city. Even in a well-designed city many people will choose to do it. The lady in this story got stranded when her car broke down after she drove it to the store. That should not happen. She should have alternative options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Ok? And the relevance of that small minority to either the principles of good urban design, or to the story in the OP is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) a logical reason why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago There are lots of logical reasons why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city. Even in a well-designed city many people will choose to do it. The lady in this story got stranded when her car broke down after she drove it to the store. That should not happen. She should have alternative options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) a logical reason why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago There are lots of logical reasons why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city. Even in a well-designed city many people will choose to do it. The lady in this story got stranded when her car broke down after she drove it to the store. That should not happen. She should have alternative options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 1 year ago There are lots of logical reasons why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city. Even in a well-designed city many people will choose to do it. The lady in this story got stranded when her car broke down after she drove it to the store. That should not happen. She should have alternative options. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] scsi@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago I'm not sure what you mean. I didn't hold out Australia as some bastion of urbanism. I simply reinforced OP's point that North America is bad. Australia is also terrible at this. It just wasn't relevant to mention. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago I'm not sure what you mean. I didn't hold out Australia as some bastion of urbanism. I simply reinforced OP's point that North America is bad. Australia is also terrible at this. It just wasn't relevant to mention. permalink fedilink source parent