▲ 284 ▼ Alan Dershowitz Says, ‘If You Want to Destroy Hamas, You Have to Kill the Civilians’ During Tense Piers Morgan Debate (www.mediaite.com) submitted 1 year ago by RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to c/news@lemmy.world 47 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Please give me: statistics on the bystanders killed by hamas vs. statistics on the bystanders killed by the Israeli occupation forces EDIT: Misread comment, but hamas still clearly values human life more than Israel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (3 children) It's actually a lot worse. The IDF has a much, much higher rate of civilians killed for every noncombatant than Hamas does. Hamas is objectively better at avoiding civilian casualties than the IDF is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh my bad, I misread your comment and thought you meant they're better than hamas. I'm palestinian so I am biased, and I do obviously agree 100% permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Would be interesting to see the statistics, if someone has calculated them. I wonder if reservists count as combatants or noncombatants. Would skew the numbers a lot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Well, the vast vast majority of Hamas fighters are what a regular military would classify as "reservists." Hamas are mostly part-time fighters who otherwise have regular civilian jobs and live regular civilian lives. (Or at least they did before the Gaza strip was blown to rubble.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago Hamas is an irregular force, not sure they have what are traditionally understood as reservists permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago the IDF has indiscriminate bombings or attacks. hamas doesnt want to lose public favor from gazans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (3 children) It's actually a lot worse. The IDF has a much, much higher rate of civilians killed for every noncombatant than Hamas does. Hamas is objectively better at avoiding civilian casualties than the IDF is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh my bad, I misread your comment and thought you meant they're better than hamas. I'm palestinian so I am biased, and I do obviously agree 100% permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Would be interesting to see the statistics, if someone has calculated them. I wonder if reservists count as combatants or noncombatants. Would skew the numbers a lot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Well, the vast vast majority of Hamas fighters are what a regular military would classify as "reservists." Hamas are mostly part-time fighters who otherwise have regular civilian jobs and live regular civilian lives. (Or at least they did before the Gaza strip was blown to rubble.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago Hamas is an irregular force, not sure they have what are traditionally understood as reservists permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago the IDF has indiscriminate bombings or attacks. hamas doesnt want to lose public favor from gazans. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago Oh my bad, I misread your comment and thought you meant they're better than hamas. I'm palestinian so I am biased, and I do obviously agree 100% permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Would be interesting to see the statistics, if someone has calculated them. I wonder if reservists count as combatants or noncombatants. Would skew the numbers a lot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Well, the vast vast majority of Hamas fighters are what a regular military would classify as "reservists." Hamas are mostly part-time fighters who otherwise have regular civilian jobs and live regular civilian lives. (Or at least they did before the Gaza strip was blown to rubble.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago Hamas is an irregular force, not sure they have what are traditionally understood as reservists permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Well, the vast vast majority of Hamas fighters are what a regular military would classify as "reservists." Hamas are mostly part-time fighters who otherwise have regular civilian jobs and live regular civilian lives. (Or at least they did before the Gaza strip was blown to rubble.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago Hamas is an irregular force, not sure they have what are traditionally understood as reservists permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago Hamas is an irregular force, not sure they have what are traditionally understood as reservists permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago the IDF has indiscriminate bombings or attacks. hamas doesnt want to lose public favor from gazans. permalink fedilink source parent