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"Vote blue no matter who" was always projection (slrpnk.net)
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[–] 21 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

They've given interviews. According to them, Mamdani hasn't yet proven his viability among the general population, he only won a primary where 15% of the DNC participated with a plurality vote of 43%. Furthermore, some of them represent districts that hardlined against Mamdani such as neighborhoods in the southeastern part of Brooklyn. Mamdani won Brooklyn overall but the difference between neighborhoods he won and lost were very stark.

I agree with you, though, that they should endorse Mamdani. Any concerns about his type of socialism can be easily quelled with Mamdani's clear opposition to "communist countries".

Not endorsing Mamdani is just asking to split the vote and give Republicans the chance to fuck everything up.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't like 'viability among gen pop'. It's like assessing his electability. Doesn't matter, he was chosen in a democratic primary vote. He's the democratic candidate for mayor. If they expect us to fall in line and vote blue, they need to fall in line and endorse blue.

    Rich fucks

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    "electability" was always a sham. It is exclusively used by millionaire news pundits and NYT writers to tell primary voters not to vote for the candidate with the policy that immediately improves the material conditions of the most people because of an imaginary cohort of "centrists" and "moderate republicans" who are terrified of anything good like free healthcare, child care, college, rent-control, and taxes on billionaires, but will totally vote for the version of those policies that will help nobody.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I agree but you have to focus on outcomes. Does endorsing him help or harm him? Does endorsing him help or harm themselves? The answer to these questions might very well be "I don't know".

    If some general polls shine a big awesome light on Mamdani being the best possible candidate to defeat the Republican nominee, then hopefully that is more than enough reason for these few Democrats to fall in line behind him. If he polls at like 25%, it's going to start being time to look at other options.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just looked up the bright blue square on Brooklyn - it's Borough Park: "home to one of the largest Orthodox Jewish communities outside Israel, with one of the largest concentrations of Jews in the United States"

    Hmm! I don't think it's his policies they are against...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I don't know much about Judaism but I wouldn't be surprised if among Jewish philosophers, religious and spiritual thinkers and community activists that standing up against injustice especially if it is easy to ignore is a form of expressing your love of god/spiritual practice.

    It is the same with all the actually legitimate teachings in all major religions (quantified crudely by number of practicioners and length of history the religion has been practiced), how could it be otherwise? We are all human beings after all.

    sigh countless jews know this, what you are seeing is US colonialism using judaism as a toy to be violently discarded later, it is a tale as old as time, one that the conservative authoritarian elements of spiritual movements always fall for like it is catnip.

    Mamdani just makes it painfully obvious this is the game pretend conservatives hiding as religious leaders always ALWAYS play.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago*

    That kind of reasoning makes sense to not endorse him in a run off.

    But in the general election? He's got your party's nomination, so back your party. Your Cuomo boy got primaried, get over it. (Edit: the 'your' in this sentence applies to the party members listed in the OP, not the commenter and/or OP)

    This is just money talking. Rich people don't like the ones that look like they won't bend to them. Hopefully he continues to not.

    Also, this is yet another reason I don't associate with political parties. Super not a fan of them. It's the system we got, and I do vote with the dual party power structure in mind, but you'll never see me signed up in one.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    We're not talking about the mayor of Canon Beach, OR [randomly selected] with its cute chocolate shops, bed-and-breakfasts and small population. We're talking about going from state assembly advocate of the MTA to the whole shebang of one of the biggest concentrations of money and power in the world.

    Admittedly, Eric Adams is the incumbent, so - wtf do I know. I'm all for Mamdani winning, I just think it's understandable to say "I'd prefer someone with more experience". That's not an excuse to shout him down, but I could understand not promoting him.

    Plus - again, not a native New Yorker so wtf do I know - but I'd imagine someone who's publicly associated with what I'm guessing many people understand to be Muslim terrorism (I know that's not true, I'm saying many people think it is) would be difficult in most cities but in NY there's some reason it's an extra touchy subject.

    According to them, Mamdani hasn't yet proven his viability among the general population, he only won a primary where 15% of the DNC participated with a plurality vote of 43%. Furthermore, some of them represent districts that hardlined against Mamdani such as neighborhoods in the southeastern part of Brooklyn. Mamdani won Brooklyn overall but the difference between neighborhoods he won and lost were very stark.

    What they're really mad about is how badly the Democrats planned, thinking they'd waltz in past the wreckage of Adams with Cuomo and seeing how shit his campaign was. Now they're going to lose the SDNY office leverage they had AND get painted as radical leftist tankies AND lose the moderate votes.

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