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Sorry bout your heart (discuss.online)
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[–] 37 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

correlation is not causation, the reason why they have less murders is probably not Christianity (for example they have way stricter gun control)

edit: after rereading the post I don't think the other person is tryng to argue that Christianity is causing murder and whatnot, so ignore above paragraph

also wouldn't it make complete sense for Japan to have way less Christians since they were isolated for so long and have their own religious beliefs

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A Japanese guy used a 3d printed gun to undermine a christian cult in Japan.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This part of 'what your bible says about murder and poor people' makes it sound like the writer of the response believes it's causational but i think they were just offended and not trying to make a scientifically sound argument. And i would understand that.

    It's almost racist because of how the first post makes Christianity sound like something superior. As if the Japanese being different in their believe makes them less.

    also wouldn't it make complete sense for Japan to have way less Christians since they were isolated for so long and have their own religious beliefs

    Exactly this. Although Japanese rulers haven't always been very peaceful, their culture is known for being caring and respectful towards others where as Americans are by many people seen as loud and obnoxious (also positive things, but i'm not trying to make a comparison between two cultures as a whole), making this comment about Japanese adoption of Christianity not only come across as ignorant but also very arrogant.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's more a statement of the state of Christianity in the United States, where in a lot of congregations the actual teachings of Jesus have taken a back seat to gun culture and right wing politics.

    She's saying that the Japanese are better Christians than Americans, despite not even being Christians.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "Beat your swords into plowshares," says Isaiah. Yet, here we are, with congregations of people who feel that "there's nothing wrong with being a soldier."

    God's first commandment? Yeah apparently that doesn't mean shit if the other party is a stinky brownskin. I do not see a legal addendum on the Ten Commandments.

    "1. Thou Shalt Not Kill ***†"

    ***† only in participating stores, offer good til Labor Day, see appendix for list of people it's totally cool to kill

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I'm with you, but you're talking about something like the 6th commandment depending on how you're counting

    Edit: the first one is the "you shall have no other gods before me" bit, with the lines drawn for exactly where each commandment starts and stops drawn in different places for different factions, but I digress. I still agree with your point and I'll stop typing more now.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Although Japanese rulers haven't always been very peaceful, their culture is known for being caring and respectful towards others:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Japan

    Many people try to make Japan sound perfect, but they have a lot of problems: https://archive.ph/0IoIQ

    Japan lacks any law which prohibits racial, ethnic, or religious discrimination.

    wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoshi

    Of course still not as bad as the US, but I don't it is because of religion, it is more because of the two party system. Look at Singapore 18% Christians and they don't have that many problems.

    In the end I believe most problems in all countries are because of human nature, not religion. Religion is just one of the excuses they use for the horrible things they commit.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Many people try to make Japan sound perfect, but they have a lot of problems

    Japan lacks any law which prohibits racial, ethnic, or religious discrimination.

    I am aware, but the difference in people's view of Japanese people and people from US is astounding.

    Agree with you and comment above, I don't believe there is causation. Two system is surely not helping to make US peaceful.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yes the US need to get rid of the two party system. These years it is basically choosing who is less horrible than electing a good president. Both parties are corrupt. Japan also need to fix their laws they are vey misogynistic and racist, they also need to fix the work culture. No one in japan is having kids due their toxic work culture.

    Japan really knows how to do PR, they make people think they are great, when in reality for many people Japan is an awful place to live in. Tourist is fine, but living there is horrible from what I heard.

    From reddit on racism in japan, can't confirm if it is true, but won't be suprised it is. https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/1diaccv/_/

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