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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

All this is a path to a police state.

In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

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Fuck this ICE mask bullshit (discuss.online)

submitted 1 year ago by bytesonbike@discuss.online to c/thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world

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[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Impersonation a federal agent is a felony.

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[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I think it's just wearing clothes not a uniform though and not stating you're an agent, so I don't think it's impersonation.

However I think it's dangerous to do this. We're better off when we can identify the enemy.

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Don't put ICE plastered on the front just dress up in black with a helmet and face mask and vest. When there's 1000 it's close enough

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Should remind them of that.

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[–] Corn@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

ICE is under a federal agency, isnt it?

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

They're identifying themselves as ICE. Who they actually are is up for debate. They seemed to have rushed this so bad that they don't have proper identification at all and do not care to.

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