▲ 2300 ▼ Foundation vs Dune (media.kbin.social) submitted 3 years ago by downpunxx@kbin.social to c/sciencefiction@lemmy.world 228 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] buzz@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago No, it's annoying because they put all the plot points in a blender and are firing the result at us as fast as they can in the name of "surprise!" Also gaal is a fundamentally annoying character, omniscient mega-genius who is irrational and never understands what she is doing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I haven't watched the show (I heard that it isn't very good) but I loved the books. With that said, Asimov's writing never seems concerned with gender-specific behavior or interactions between men and women. If I recall correctly, every major character in the trilogy is male, but I think that was just the default assumption at the time the books were written and Asimov had no interest in analyzing that assumption. Therefore, simply changing some characters to women can make the story more realistic to a modern audience while preserving everything important in the books (as long as there aren't romance subplots, because Asimov characters are incapable of romantic love). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Let's see. The prequel his bodyguard and later wife is vital, Daneel isn't real male or female being a robot, his granddaughter basically started the Second Foundation and saved Sheldon. I can't remember her name but the leader of the board of the Second Foundation was also a women. Then you add in Bliss plus the two Second Foundation agents, plus the daughter of the resistance. Seems pretty equal to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] muzzle@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago If that's your gripe, you really didn't understand much about the source books. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 12 points 3 years ago No, it's annoying because they put all the plot points in a blender and are firing the result at us as fast as they can in the name of "surprise!" Also gaal is a fundamentally annoying character, omniscient mega-genius who is irrational and never understands what she is doing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child) I haven't watched the show (I heard that it isn't very good) but I loved the books. With that said, Asimov's writing never seems concerned with gender-specific behavior or interactions between men and women. If I recall correctly, every major character in the trilogy is male, but I think that was just the default assumption at the time the books were written and Asimov had no interest in analyzing that assumption. Therefore, simply changing some characters to women can make the story more realistic to a modern audience while preserving everything important in the books (as long as there aren't romance subplots, because Asimov characters are incapable of romantic love). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Let's see. The prequel his bodyguard and later wife is vital, Daneel isn't real male or female being a robot, his granddaughter basically started the Second Foundation and saved Sheldon. I can't remember her name but the leader of the board of the Second Foundation was also a women. Then you add in Bliss plus the two Second Foundation agents, plus the daughter of the resistance. Seems pretty equal to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Let's see. The prequel his bodyguard and later wife is vital, Daneel isn't real male or female being a robot, his granddaughter basically started the Second Foundation and saved Sheldon. I can't remember her name but the leader of the board of the Second Foundation was also a women. Then you add in Bliss plus the two Second Foundation agents, plus the daughter of the resistance. Seems pretty equal to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] muzzle@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago If that's your gripe, you really didn't understand much about the source books. permalink fedilink source parent