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iFixit says the Switch 2 is even harder to repair than the original (www.theverge.com)
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[–] 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What’s the appeal of the switch for when PC handhelds exist ? I just don’t get it why you would buy this unless you had children. Nintendo Games are good but they’re really not that good either.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    People like playing Nintendo original games. Mario games, Zelda games, etc.

    The only way to legally play those is on the switch.

    Yes, even non children play those games.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You can legally play them on an ROG Ally or other Pc handheld . It is not illegal to emulate a game that you own.

    But I get that it’s just that I don’t think Nintendo games warrant buying an entire system anymore. If their consoles had more third party support maybe, but I just don’t see the value at the current price of the console.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is not illegal to emulate a game that you own.

    In a lot of place it is illegal to circumvent technical protection measures, which is technically required for almost anything starting from NES era. Making it impossible to "legally" rip your own games (yes, even in places where there IS a tax to allow private copy of content you bought). So the only way you can do that is by downloading it, where there is no "legal" way to distribute it in the first place, so "legally" you can't download it either.

    I'm not defending the practice, I'm saying that if you're going the "legal" defense, you're going to have a bad time if it gets attention. Fortunately, suing every single gamer on earth is not an attractive prospect.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    In those place it's usually sharing which is illegal, downloading is fine as long as you already own the media.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    And where would you download from, that is seen as legal sharing of someone else's IP?

    The closest you could get is by locating the ROM file in some PC remakes, assuming there's no "protection" on them.

    Again, playing around the "legal" way to do things. In reality, it's different.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Mario. Zelda. Metroid. For a time the occasional Splatoon. Maybe a Wario once in a while too. Some Pikmin. Even the built-in (paid) list of emulator games are attractive.

    Also, you severely underestimate the convenience factor for a lot of people. Yeah, I have a Steam Deck, and 95% of the time, it's a completely seamless experience. With consoles, it's 100% of the time. People want a "I turn it on, I start a game", not a "I turn it on, I might be able to start a game, and sometimes it needs a bit of fiddling, not much, but, more than zero. And sure, I could have this or that other thing by going there and running that, you know, sometimes".

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    with consoles, it's 100% of the time

    Several Switch 1 games are facing issues on Switch 2, including broken textures, crashes and weird behavior. This whole "consoles are 100%!" idea has been dead since the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 generation.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    People buying the console for the games that are on that console, not generations before, are 100% fine.

    Beside, it's not something you have to fiddle with to get it work. Either a patch come, or you're on your own.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    not generations before

    If by "Generations" you mean the literal previous generation that was advertised as backwards compatible and where many of the games won't receive specific patches precisely because running natively and better was one of the key features of the new console... Sure, I guess.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have children, like their first party titles, and dislike piracy. I also have a PC handheld that gets more use than the Switch, and I like both.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    and dislike piracy.

    Because you cant just... You know, Fucking Rip the game from The cardridge?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I can't, because I don't have the 1st gen or whatever with the faulty firmware. Maybe there's a new exploit, idk.

    I'd be fine downloading a digital copy if I own the cartridge, I'm just too lazy to actually find a suitable emulator and just play on the Switch. My kids like to watch me anyway, so the TV is usually a better option, hence the Switch.

    We take it on trips as well, so it's pretty nice. I bring my Steam Deck as well, but that's for me, not my kids.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Battery life and weight. That’s what keeps me from getting a pc handheld. Although the switch 2 is so big I don’t know if that holds true anymore

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The steam deck has great battery life (better than my original switch by a lot) unless you're playing something super heavy, and it's so much more comfortable to hold that the bit of extra weight isn't that big a deal. I don't think I've touched my switch since I got a deck

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    From my friend, the main advantage the switch have is the UI for games is being design for handheld from the get go, so big, readable font and icon is by default already there and is made to fit. PC game tend to made for either a 24inch or so monitor or big tv for couch gaming, games that doesn't have UI accessibility option on a handheld PC is unplayable for a lot of people.

    Also that damn controller can be split so coop is so accessible. Not to mention that first party games.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Friends with Switchs to play Smash Bros and Mario Party. Occasional Nintendo game but everything else PC. It's lighter than almost every PC handheld. The Ayaneo Air 1S is lighter but has a 5.5" display

    I have a PC handheld but they're all too heavy in my opinion. The holy grail to me is a Steam Deck that's about the same weight as a Switch 2 or lighter. 7" display

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