β² 329 βΌ It was 15 euros earlier today, what happened? (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by andrr_464@lemmy.world to c/syncforlemmy@lemmy.world 245 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Gawd, tinfoil hats are in right now! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago (3 children) How's it tinfoil hat? It's very clear how much tracking is going on if you don't subscribe. None of this stuff is made up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] peterpan520@feddit.de 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think he meant your last part. You say there is a chance that LJ will collect and sell data, although you paid for premium. That's a unnecessary accusation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) My last part was a question, not an accusation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (2 children) We call that JAQing off and it's never just a question. "They don't answer me, conclusion is they do that thing I disagree with even if I don't have proof of it." Right out of the alt-right playbook but applied outside of politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] peterpan520@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago "I'm just asking questions here" Tucker Carlson Vibes permalink fedilink source parent [+] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Wtf are you even smoking? See, another question that you can respond to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) If the dev tells you "information gathering is deactivated for users who pay." you won't believe them, you'll just move the goalpost and ask that they prove it by releasing their code, which they won't do because their app isn't open source and you'll conclude that because they won't prove it then we should just assume that they do. That's JAQing off and that's exactly where you were heading with that first question. Guilty until proven innocent, but you don't accuse directly, you're Just Asking Questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) People have checked. The only data collection is for ads, and it doesn't load the module at all if you have ads disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago I'm not the one that needs convincing! permalink fedilink source parent [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're really overthinking this buddy and making a lot of assumptions. And not to mention wasting your own damn time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* I'm wasting yours at the same time so it's not a bad trade-off π permalink fedilink source parent [β] Lmaydev@programming.dev 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Then don't use it if that bothers you. It's not blackmail lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mediocrequalitymeme@mastodon.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) @Lmaydev @quantum_mechanic You can stop using that for free, you can continue using it for free with ads, you can subscribe and use it without ads, you can buy lifetime access and use it without ads So many options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] starlinguk@kbin.social -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Plenty of options for people with plenty of money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] mediocrequalitymeme@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @starlinguk @andrr_464 @CloudSheep @ljdawson @quantum_mechanic @Kecessa @Lmaydev Web version is free. Thatβs how I browse Lemmy and itβs ok. This comment was posted from my mastodon account though. The point is itβs all open, choose something and enjoy permalink fedilink source parent [β] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Thereβs also βdonβt use itβ, which is a perfectly valid option. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) There's a difference between "There's a lot tracking happening if you don't pay!" and "What's the guarantee you don't track us if we pay?" and that difference comes in the form of a hat... Made of tinfoil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago Notice how it was a question? See this '?' permalink fedilink source parent
[β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago (3 children) How's it tinfoil hat? It's very clear how much tracking is going on if you don't subscribe. None of this stuff is made up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] peterpan520@feddit.de 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think he meant your last part. You say there is a chance that LJ will collect and sell data, although you paid for premium. That's a unnecessary accusation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) My last part was a question, not an accusation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (2 children) We call that JAQing off and it's never just a question. "They don't answer me, conclusion is they do that thing I disagree with even if I don't have proof of it." Right out of the alt-right playbook but applied outside of politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] peterpan520@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago "I'm just asking questions here" Tucker Carlson Vibes permalink fedilink source parent [+] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Wtf are you even smoking? See, another question that you can respond to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) If the dev tells you "information gathering is deactivated for users who pay." you won't believe them, you'll just move the goalpost and ask that they prove it by releasing their code, which they won't do because their app isn't open source and you'll conclude that because they won't prove it then we should just assume that they do. That's JAQing off and that's exactly where you were heading with that first question. Guilty until proven innocent, but you don't accuse directly, you're Just Asking Questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) People have checked. The only data collection is for ads, and it doesn't load the module at all if you have ads disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago I'm not the one that needs convincing! permalink fedilink source parent [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're really overthinking this buddy and making a lot of assumptions. And not to mention wasting your own damn time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* I'm wasting yours at the same time so it's not a bad trade-off π permalink fedilink source parent [β] Lmaydev@programming.dev 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Then don't use it if that bothers you. It's not blackmail lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mediocrequalitymeme@mastodon.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) @Lmaydev @quantum_mechanic You can stop using that for free, you can continue using it for free with ads, you can subscribe and use it without ads, you can buy lifetime access and use it without ads So many options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] starlinguk@kbin.social -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Plenty of options for people with plenty of money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] mediocrequalitymeme@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @starlinguk @andrr_464 @CloudSheep @ljdawson @quantum_mechanic @Kecessa @Lmaydev Web version is free. Thatβs how I browse Lemmy and itβs ok. This comment was posted from my mastodon account though. The point is itβs all open, choose something and enjoy permalink fedilink source parent [β] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Thereβs also βdonβt use itβ, which is a perfectly valid option. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) There's a difference between "There's a lot tracking happening if you don't pay!" and "What's the guarantee you don't track us if we pay?" and that difference comes in the form of a hat... Made of tinfoil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago Notice how it was a question? See this '?' permalink fedilink source parent
[β] peterpan520@feddit.de 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think he meant your last part. You say there is a chance that LJ will collect and sell data, although you paid for premium. That's a unnecessary accusation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) My last part was a question, not an accusation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (2 children) We call that JAQing off and it's never just a question. "They don't answer me, conclusion is they do that thing I disagree with even if I don't have proof of it." Right out of the alt-right playbook but applied outside of politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] peterpan520@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago "I'm just asking questions here" Tucker Carlson Vibes permalink fedilink source parent [+] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Wtf are you even smoking? See, another question that you can respond to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) If the dev tells you "information gathering is deactivated for users who pay." you won't believe them, you'll just move the goalpost and ask that they prove it by releasing their code, which they won't do because their app isn't open source and you'll conclude that because they won't prove it then we should just assume that they do. That's JAQing off and that's exactly where you were heading with that first question. Guilty until proven innocent, but you don't accuse directly, you're Just Asking Questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) People have checked. The only data collection is for ads, and it doesn't load the module at all if you have ads disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago I'm not the one that needs convincing! permalink fedilink source parent [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're really overthinking this buddy and making a lot of assumptions. And not to mention wasting your own damn time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* I'm wasting yours at the same time so it's not a bad trade-off π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) My last part was a question, not an accusation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (2 children) We call that JAQing off and it's never just a question. "They don't answer me, conclusion is they do that thing I disagree with even if I don't have proof of it." Right out of the alt-right playbook but applied outside of politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] peterpan520@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago "I'm just asking questions here" Tucker Carlson Vibes permalink fedilink source parent [+] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Wtf are you even smoking? See, another question that you can respond to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) If the dev tells you "information gathering is deactivated for users who pay." you won't believe them, you'll just move the goalpost and ask that they prove it by releasing their code, which they won't do because their app isn't open source and you'll conclude that because they won't prove it then we should just assume that they do. That's JAQing off and that's exactly where you were heading with that first question. Guilty until proven innocent, but you don't accuse directly, you're Just Asking Questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) People have checked. The only data collection is for ads, and it doesn't load the module at all if you have ads disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago I'm not the one that needs convincing! permalink fedilink source parent [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're really overthinking this buddy and making a lot of assumptions. And not to mention wasting your own damn time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* I'm wasting yours at the same time so it's not a bad trade-off π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 years ago* (2 children) We call that JAQing off and it's never just a question. "They don't answer me, conclusion is they do that thing I disagree with even if I don't have proof of it." Right out of the alt-right playbook but applied outside of politics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] peterpan520@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago "I'm just asking questions here" Tucker Carlson Vibes permalink fedilink source parent [+] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Wtf are you even smoking? See, another question that you can respond to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) If the dev tells you "information gathering is deactivated for users who pay." you won't believe them, you'll just move the goalpost and ask that they prove it by releasing their code, which they won't do because their app isn't open source and you'll conclude that because they won't prove it then we should just assume that they do. That's JAQing off and that's exactly where you were heading with that first question. Guilty until proven innocent, but you don't accuse directly, you're Just Asking Questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) People have checked. The only data collection is for ads, and it doesn't load the module at all if you have ads disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago I'm not the one that needs convincing! permalink fedilink source parent [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're really overthinking this buddy and making a lot of assumptions. And not to mention wasting your own damn time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* I'm wasting yours at the same time so it's not a bad trade-off π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] peterpan520@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago "I'm just asking questions here" Tucker Carlson Vibes permalink fedilink source parent
[+] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Wtf are you even smoking? See, another question that you can respond to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) If the dev tells you "information gathering is deactivated for users who pay." you won't believe them, you'll just move the goalpost and ask that they prove it by releasing their code, which they won't do because their app isn't open source and you'll conclude that because they won't prove it then we should just assume that they do. That's JAQing off and that's exactly where you were heading with that first question. Guilty until proven innocent, but you don't accuse directly, you're Just Asking Questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) People have checked. The only data collection is for ads, and it doesn't load the module at all if you have ads disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago I'm not the one that needs convincing! permalink fedilink source parent [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're really overthinking this buddy and making a lot of assumptions. And not to mention wasting your own damn time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* I'm wasting yours at the same time so it's not a bad trade-off π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago (2 children) If the dev tells you "information gathering is deactivated for users who pay." you won't believe them, you'll just move the goalpost and ask that they prove it by releasing their code, which they won't do because their app isn't open source and you'll conclude that because they won't prove it then we should just assume that they do. That's JAQing off and that's exactly where you were heading with that first question. Guilty until proven innocent, but you don't accuse directly, you're Just Asking Questions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) People have checked. The only data collection is for ads, and it doesn't load the module at all if you have ads disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago I'm not the one that needs convincing! permalink fedilink source parent [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're really overthinking this buddy and making a lot of assumptions. And not to mention wasting your own damn time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* I'm wasting yours at the same time so it's not a bad trade-off π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) People have checked. The only data collection is for ads, and it doesn't load the module at all if you have ads disabled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago I'm not the one that needs convincing! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago I'm not the one that needs convincing! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're really overthinking this buddy and making a lot of assumptions. And not to mention wasting your own damn time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* I'm wasting yours at the same time so it's not a bad trade-off π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* I'm wasting yours at the same time so it's not a bad trade-off π permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Lmaydev@programming.dev 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Then don't use it if that bothers you. It's not blackmail lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] mediocrequalitymeme@mastodon.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) @Lmaydev @quantum_mechanic You can stop using that for free, you can continue using it for free with ads, you can subscribe and use it without ads, you can buy lifetime access and use it without ads So many options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] starlinguk@kbin.social -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Plenty of options for people with plenty of money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] mediocrequalitymeme@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @starlinguk @andrr_464 @CloudSheep @ljdawson @quantum_mechanic @Kecessa @Lmaydev Web version is free. Thatβs how I browse Lemmy and itβs ok. This comment was posted from my mastodon account though. The point is itβs all open, choose something and enjoy permalink fedilink source parent [β] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Thereβs also βdonβt use itβ, which is a perfectly valid option. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mediocrequalitymeme@mastodon.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) @Lmaydev @quantum_mechanic You can stop using that for free, you can continue using it for free with ads, you can subscribe and use it without ads, you can buy lifetime access and use it without ads So many options permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] starlinguk@kbin.social -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Plenty of options for people with plenty of money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] mediocrequalitymeme@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @starlinguk @andrr_464 @CloudSheep @ljdawson @quantum_mechanic @Kecessa @Lmaydev Web version is free. Thatβs how I browse Lemmy and itβs ok. This comment was posted from my mastodon account though. The point is itβs all open, choose something and enjoy permalink fedilink source parent [β] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Thereβs also βdonβt use itβ, which is a perfectly valid option. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] starlinguk@kbin.social -4 points 3 years ago (2 children) Plenty of options for people with plenty of money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] mediocrequalitymeme@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @starlinguk @andrr_464 @CloudSheep @ljdawson @quantum_mechanic @Kecessa @Lmaydev Web version is free. Thatβs how I browse Lemmy and itβs ok. This comment was posted from my mastodon account though. The point is itβs all open, choose something and enjoy permalink fedilink source parent [β] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Thereβs also βdonβt use itβ, which is a perfectly valid option. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mediocrequalitymeme@mastodon.social 3 points 3 years ago @starlinguk @andrr_464 @CloudSheep @ljdawson @quantum_mechanic @Kecessa @Lmaydev Web version is free. Thatβs how I browse Lemmy and itβs ok. This comment was posted from my mastodon account though. The point is itβs all open, choose something and enjoy permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Thereβs also βdonβt use itβ, which is a perfectly valid option. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) There's a difference between "There's a lot tracking happening if you don't pay!" and "What's the guarantee you don't track us if we pay?" and that difference comes in the form of a hat... Made of tinfoil... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago Notice how it was a question? See this '?' permalink fedilink source parent
[β] quantum_mechanic@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago Notice how it was a question? See this '?' permalink fedilink source parent