▲ 158 ▼ From the day Britain left the EU, this reset was inevitable. What a pointless waste of time, money and effort (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 year ago by SleafordMod@feddit.uk to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk 49 comments fedilink hide all child comments Do you agree that Brexit has been "a pointless waste of time, money and effort"?
[–] middlemouse@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else instead of voting for Brexit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this thread but I hope we can talk about it in good faith and not fall back into entrenched views as has often happened in the past. Also in this thread I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else instead of voting for Brexit 😢 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) just because someone advocates harmful policies in a polite way, doesn't mean they aren't an advocate for harm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's the point of civil debates. To discuss and challenge the ideas in order to reach a better understanding. If you're simply going to tell people to "fuck right off" without addressing their concerns it shows a deep lack of understanding of their concerns and only helps to push them further away from your own position. What advantage do you get from insulting someone? Whilst I don't agree with the original post, I don't want to excuse this behaviour of the reply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm saying its perfectly reasonable for some to meet one insult with another, just because you don't see the first insult doesn't mean its not there or that its anyone else's obligation to spell things out for you. also, sorry, but "pushing people away from a position" is preposterous. this "look how you made me vote!" stuff is so childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Where was the insult in OP's post? I only saw OP putting their points across quite peacefully and then out of nowhere I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 1 year ago read my comment again, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) In this thread but I hope we can talk about it in good faith and not fall back into entrenched views as has often happened in the past. Also in this thread I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else instead of voting for Brexit 😢 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) just because someone advocates harmful policies in a polite way, doesn't mean they aren't an advocate for harm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's the point of civil debates. To discuss and challenge the ideas in order to reach a better understanding. If you're simply going to tell people to "fuck right off" without addressing their concerns it shows a deep lack of understanding of their concerns and only helps to push them further away from your own position. What advantage do you get from insulting someone? Whilst I don't agree with the original post, I don't want to excuse this behaviour of the reply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm saying its perfectly reasonable for some to meet one insult with another, just because you don't see the first insult doesn't mean its not there or that its anyone else's obligation to spell things out for you. also, sorry, but "pushing people away from a position" is preposterous. this "look how you made me vote!" stuff is so childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Where was the insult in OP's post? I only saw OP putting their points across quite peacefully and then out of nowhere I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 1 year ago read my comment again, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) just because someone advocates harmful policies in a polite way, doesn't mean they aren't an advocate for harm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's the point of civil debates. To discuss and challenge the ideas in order to reach a better understanding. If you're simply going to tell people to "fuck right off" without addressing their concerns it shows a deep lack of understanding of their concerns and only helps to push them further away from your own position. What advantage do you get from insulting someone? Whilst I don't agree with the original post, I don't want to excuse this behaviour of the reply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm saying its perfectly reasonable for some to meet one insult with another, just because you don't see the first insult doesn't mean its not there or that its anyone else's obligation to spell things out for you. also, sorry, but "pushing people away from a position" is preposterous. this "look how you made me vote!" stuff is so childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Where was the insult in OP's post? I only saw OP putting their points across quite peacefully and then out of nowhere I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 1 year ago read my comment again, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's the point of civil debates. To discuss and challenge the ideas in order to reach a better understanding. If you're simply going to tell people to "fuck right off" without addressing their concerns it shows a deep lack of understanding of their concerns and only helps to push them further away from your own position. What advantage do you get from insulting someone? Whilst I don't agree with the original post, I don't want to excuse this behaviour of the reply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm saying its perfectly reasonable for some to meet one insult with another, just because you don't see the first insult doesn't mean its not there or that its anyone else's obligation to spell things out for you. also, sorry, but "pushing people away from a position" is preposterous. this "look how you made me vote!" stuff is so childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Where was the insult in OP's post? I only saw OP putting their points across quite peacefully and then out of nowhere I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 1 year ago read my comment again, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm saying its perfectly reasonable for some to meet one insult with another, just because you don't see the first insult doesn't mean its not there or that its anyone else's obligation to spell things out for you. also, sorry, but "pushing people away from a position" is preposterous. this "look how you made me vote!" stuff is so childish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Where was the insult in OP's post? I only saw OP putting their points across quite peacefully and then out of nowhere I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 1 year ago read my comment again, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Where was the insult in OP's post? I only saw OP putting their points across quite peacefully and then out of nowhere I wish you'd fucked off somewhere else permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 1 year ago read my comment again, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 1 year ago read my comment again, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent