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[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children) Oh good. Another conflict. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) "I wonder why aliens never show themselves to us?! Come in peace!" .....yeah. Putting aside the insanely vast distances needed to reach us, we can't even stop killing each other. Why the hell would another intelligent life form want to come here? All we do is kill each other, rob each other, exploit each other. Wonderful societies we have going for us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* I don't know, if I'm the alien in this scenario and could plainly see they don't have the ability to traverse interstellar distances I wouldn't be concerned from a personal safety stand point about making first contact with the intelligent life on a distant planet even if they did show they still had problems with conflict. I'm obviously projecting my own assumptions based on living on Earth but, on Earth inter and intra species conflicts naturally occurr across the kingdoms of life (maybe even all of them?) so it's doesn't seem that unusual. Maybe if life, and intelligent life particularly, is common and perhaps intelligent civilizations commonly eventually figure out how to avoid conflict, I wouldn't be presumptuous and judgemental because this particular one hadn't got that far yet. It would seem that's something they likely all have to go through and that's just operating on the arbitrary assumption that civilizations somehow do tend to figure out a way to overcome conflict, it could just as well be that they typically don't given how hard it seems to be, so the would be aliens here likely have or have had conflicts of their own. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Asking as a Brit, is this our fault too? I don't want to be "it's all about me" but have a hunch it is! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mukt@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) Your ancestors amputated your largest colony with a fake partition which has been dissolving bit by bit through the decades, and painfully. No. Not your fault. Go enjoy your cake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Docker@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Please don't put in such a rude joke. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RexWrexWrecks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lowkey/partially ... Yes? Partition was mainly driven by British policies and then championed by Jinnah. If not for partition, there would probably just have been a lot of internal conflict in inner large South Asian country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Docker@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That l agree.... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Docker@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Why ?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago My guess is we've drawn an arbitrary straight line while occupying a foreign country and it's not sustainable as a land border permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago (1 child) "I wonder why aliens never show themselves to us?! Come in peace!" .....yeah. Putting aside the insanely vast distances needed to reach us, we can't even stop killing each other. Why the hell would another intelligent life form want to come here? All we do is kill each other, rob each other, exploit each other. Wonderful societies we have going for us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* I don't know, if I'm the alien in this scenario and could plainly see they don't have the ability to traverse interstellar distances I wouldn't be concerned from a personal safety stand point about making first contact with the intelligent life on a distant planet even if they did show they still had problems with conflict. I'm obviously projecting my own assumptions based on living on Earth but, on Earth inter and intra species conflicts naturally occurr across the kingdoms of life (maybe even all of them?) so it's doesn't seem that unusual. Maybe if life, and intelligent life particularly, is common and perhaps intelligent civilizations commonly eventually figure out how to avoid conflict, I wouldn't be presumptuous and judgemental because this particular one hadn't got that far yet. It would seem that's something they likely all have to go through and that's just operating on the arbitrary assumption that civilizations somehow do tend to figure out a way to overcome conflict, it could just as well be that they typically don't given how hard it seems to be, so the would be aliens here likely have or have had conflicts of their own. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* I don't know, if I'm the alien in this scenario and could plainly see they don't have the ability to traverse interstellar distances I wouldn't be concerned from a personal safety stand point about making first contact with the intelligent life on a distant planet even if they did show they still had problems with conflict. I'm obviously projecting my own assumptions based on living on Earth but, on Earth inter and intra species conflicts naturally occurr across the kingdoms of life (maybe even all of them?) so it's doesn't seem that unusual. Maybe if life, and intelligent life particularly, is common and perhaps intelligent civilizations commonly eventually figure out how to avoid conflict, I wouldn't be presumptuous and judgemental because this particular one hadn't got that far yet. It would seem that's something they likely all have to go through and that's just operating on the arbitrary assumption that civilizations somehow do tend to figure out a way to overcome conflict, it could just as well be that they typically don't given how hard it seems to be, so the would be aliens here likely have or have had conflicts of their own. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (3 children) Asking as a Brit, is this our fault too? I don't want to be "it's all about me" but have a hunch it is! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mukt@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) Your ancestors amputated your largest colony with a fake partition which has been dissolving bit by bit through the decades, and painfully. No. Not your fault. Go enjoy your cake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Docker@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Please don't put in such a rude joke. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RexWrexWrecks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lowkey/partially ... Yes? Partition was mainly driven by British policies and then championed by Jinnah. If not for partition, there would probably just have been a lot of internal conflict in inner large South Asian country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Docker@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That l agree.... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Docker@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Why ?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago My guess is we've drawn an arbitrary straight line while occupying a foreign country and it's not sustainable as a land border permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) Your ancestors amputated your largest colony with a fake partition which has been dissolving bit by bit through the decades, and painfully. No. Not your fault. Go enjoy your cake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Docker@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Please don't put in such a rude joke. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Docker@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago Please don't put in such a rude joke. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RexWrexWrecks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) Lowkey/partially ... Yes? Partition was mainly driven by British policies and then championed by Jinnah. If not for partition, there would probably just have been a lot of internal conflict in inner large South Asian country. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Docker@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago That l agree.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Docker@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Why ?? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago My guess is we've drawn an arbitrary straight line while occupying a foreign country and it's not sustainable as a land border permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 1 point 1 year ago My guess is we've drawn an arbitrary straight line while occupying a foreign country and it's not sustainable as a land border permalink fedilink source parent