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Germany Will Force 80% of Gas Stations to Install EV Charging, Too (www.thedrive.com)
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[–] 21 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

They should concentrate on making EVs financially more plausible for people without an electrified garage. Half of Germany lives in flats, most without an own parking space and will pay much more for charging their EV with much less comfort. And politics seem to completly ignore that.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You mean by making petrol stations have EV charging points?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Where you still wait 30 minutes and pay much more than those charging at home.

    So: no. That is not what I mean. That is a pretty much useless imo, there are so many charging stations everywhere and they are mostly empty whenever I see one anyways (maybe, just maybe, because depending on a EV is so difficult for almost everyone living in flat?).

    I live in the city and am lucky to almost never need a car. Many of my neighbours need a car though for various reasons. There is not a single EV car in the whole neighborhood of several thousand people. And guess the reason: it is impossible to switch to one. And this law proposed here will do zero to change that.

    You see a shitload of EV cars in the suburbs though.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    While I agree, it is much easier to bring in charging stations to gas stations where infrastructure is already built out. It seems like a near-term win with the long-term option for flat integration/power connectivity

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The electric infrastructure is the whole grid. I'd argue apartment complex are better prepared for the increased power use than a gas station and is more convenient a location than gas station.

    What are you going to do while waiting for your car to charge? At least at home you can go.. home. Shopping centres are a close second. You can do your shopping while you're charging. Parking spaces and grid are already there.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I’d argue apartment complex are better prepared for the increased power use than a gas station and is more convenient a location than gas station.

    They solve different problems: in the apartment complex you charge during the night for the daily usage while at the gas station is for the longer drives.

    And while charging, at least in Europe, you can simply eat your lunch at the station restaurant/fast food/self service/whatever

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Im guessing but I bet it is mostly due to the local infrastructure. It is easier to run electrical and install new chargers at a place of business versus residential. The infrastructure at a business is built to expand unlike parking spaces at an apartment complex. You cannot easily tear up the concrete and install electrical when hundreds of families are sleeping or getting home from work

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    You cannot easily tear up the concrete

    Concrete near houses is wasteful. In NL stones are used instead. Installing a charger is easy. There are loads and loads of chargers. In my city they are at most 50 meters apart from each other.

    I completely disagree with pretty much everything you said based upon how NL does it. It's easy, it doesn't take a long time, it doesn't affect anyone sleeping, etc.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I get your point. But to be fair: for landlords where massive subventions in place. This program ended amd was not renewed because of lack of interest.

    But at least for new buildings, a policy to force charging stations at every parking lot would be a good idea

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I mean, if you live in a flat without your own parking space, I'd expect you're taking public transportation most of the time. If you don't own a car in the first place, there's no need to convert you in the first place, at least if you have no reason to need a car.

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