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Secret Trump Memo Tells ICE to Break into Homes Without Warrants (www.thedailybeast.com)
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[+] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm a fairly pacifist type, but I have a .30-06 rifle and a 9mm pistol loaded and by my bedside now. I'd like to get a shotgun though...but there are new rules where I am so it's going to take some time.

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  • [+] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Now I don't do guns personally, so forgive me if I'm wrong. But wouldn't buckshot also be finding soft tissue not covered by armor?

    Semi related, I need to take self defense courses back up 🫡

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So to answer your question, not really. The spread of shotguns is greatly exaggerated in media and in a close quarters situation will probably be not existent unless you are using really specific shit. The real threat especially with 12 gauge is that it is more than powerful enough to take limbs off, turn organs into soup, and if you get hit in the head ya ain't living.

    This is actually why sawed offs are so dangerous they do infact increase the spread and when used in close quarters yeah... ya have a good chance of survival but I hope ya like hospital food.

    Also yes I know shotguns are rarely that devastating but I ain't over exaggerating by much either, if it's good for home defense, Iwo Jimma, and the trenches of Verdun I suspect it's a rather effective weapon to say the least.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Also yes I know shotguns are rarely that devastating but I ain't over exaggerating by much either

    Yeah not by much at all.

    Hitting a person with a single 12ga shell of 00 buckshot is kind of like completely mag dumping a 9mm handgun at them.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Birdshot is perfectly acceptable in a home defense situation given the short ranges. It does have a lower lethality but unobstructed head and chest shots will most likely be fatal and will incapacitate.

    An advantage to bird shot is that two layers of drywall may slow it down enough to prevent lethal injuries to bystanders such as family members in other rooms.

    A disadvantage is that it will likely be stopped by body armor where buckshot packs enough punch that it can cause severe injury even if it doesn't penetrate.

    I don't have ready sources for this, just general informed opinion.

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