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[+] StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net -6 points 1 year ago* (4 children) This gets parroted by left wingers a lot, but I've literally never met an American Christian who will come out and say this. Have you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] sepi@piefed.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes I have. Quite a few weirdos. Btw, you are doing the "I have personally not seen this therefore it doesn't exist" mental acrobatic - because you can see everything everywhere at all times, and what other people have to say doesnt matter. https://sojo.net/articles/evangelical-support-israel-fueled-apocalyptic-hopes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net -9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) You've gone from "the Christian right only believes this because" to "quite a few weirdos I have met personally", and I'm the one doing mental acrobatics? You're painting with the same broad brush right wingers do when they say all leftists are gay furry terrorists. Do you want to understand your enemy, or just demonize them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago stop distorting the reality of the situation. you've had your head in the sand if you've never met christians who are accelerationists, who want the end times now. they're not an isolated one off. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/us-evangelical-christians-israel-hamas-war https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/03/world/evangelicals-israel-hamas-war/ https://www.gotquestions.org/end-times-Israel.html https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/truth-many-evangelical-christians-support-israel-rcna121481 https://www.reddit.com/r/exchristian/comments/17gm2v3/israelpalestine_and_the_end_times_from_someone/ https://allisrael.com/is-the-gaza-war-part-of-end-times-prophecy-what-about-psalm-83-what-do-the-bible-s-20-mentions-of-gaza-tell-us https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/gaza-war-evangelical-leaders-cheer-end-world-1234884151/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepi@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I understand what I need to understand. My experiences with them IRL have led me to my current position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Spoken like a true bigot. Good luck with that 👍 A predictive model is only as accurate as it's underlying assumptions. Leftists are floundering on the Palestine issue because they don't actually want to understand the opposing side. They're just chasing the dopamine rush of feeling like they're right, always - kind of like religious fundamentalists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Delusional, seek help permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Your reading comprehension needs work permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago It's pretty well known that the American religious nutters want Israel to rebuild the temple of David so the apocalypse happens. This leads them to support Israel's actions in general OTOH Israel will never rebuild the temple, 'cause if they did they would lose the support of the American religious nutters when the apocalypse failed to occur (as apocalypses have so far) permalink fedilink source parent [–] nomylous@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago Have you ever met any Evangelical Christians? I was raised Baptist and the rebuilding of Temple Mount/the Third Temple (destroying the dome of the rock in the process) is religious doctrine. They believe it has to happen for the messiah to return. They eagerly await WWIII in the middle east as part of their end times prophecies. I've met dozens (easily) who'll get there in a conversation, but you have to talk to them as a believer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago It's "parroted" by people who have working brains because it's accurate permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sepi@piefed.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes I have. Quite a few weirdos. Btw, you are doing the "I have personally not seen this therefore it doesn't exist" mental acrobatic - because you can see everything everywhere at all times, and what other people have to say doesnt matter. https://sojo.net/articles/evangelical-support-israel-fueled-apocalyptic-hopes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net -9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) You've gone from "the Christian right only believes this because" to "quite a few weirdos I have met personally", and I'm the one doing mental acrobatics? You're painting with the same broad brush right wingers do when they say all leftists are gay furry terrorists. Do you want to understand your enemy, or just demonize them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago stop distorting the reality of the situation. you've had your head in the sand if you've never met christians who are accelerationists, who want the end times now. they're not an isolated one off. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/us-evangelical-christians-israel-hamas-war https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/03/world/evangelicals-israel-hamas-war/ https://www.gotquestions.org/end-times-Israel.html https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/truth-many-evangelical-christians-support-israel-rcna121481 https://www.reddit.com/r/exchristian/comments/17gm2v3/israelpalestine_and_the_end_times_from_someone/ https://allisrael.com/is-the-gaza-war-part-of-end-times-prophecy-what-about-psalm-83-what-do-the-bible-s-20-mentions-of-gaza-tell-us https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/gaza-war-evangelical-leaders-cheer-end-world-1234884151/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepi@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I understand what I need to understand. My experiences with them IRL have led me to my current position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Spoken like a true bigot. Good luck with that 👍 A predictive model is only as accurate as it's underlying assumptions. Leftists are floundering on the Palestine issue because they don't actually want to understand the opposing side. They're just chasing the dopamine rush of feeling like they're right, always - kind of like religious fundamentalists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Delusional, seek help permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Your reading comprehension needs work permalink fedilink source parent
[+] StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net -9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) You've gone from "the Christian right only believes this because" to "quite a few weirdos I have met personally", and I'm the one doing mental acrobatics? You're painting with the same broad brush right wingers do when they say all leftists are gay furry terrorists. Do you want to understand your enemy, or just demonize them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago stop distorting the reality of the situation. you've had your head in the sand if you've never met christians who are accelerationists, who want the end times now. they're not an isolated one off. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/us-evangelical-christians-israel-hamas-war https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/03/world/evangelicals-israel-hamas-war/ https://www.gotquestions.org/end-times-Israel.html https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/truth-many-evangelical-christians-support-israel-rcna121481 https://www.reddit.com/r/exchristian/comments/17gm2v3/israelpalestine_and_the_end_times_from_someone/ https://allisrael.com/is-the-gaza-war-part-of-end-times-prophecy-what-about-psalm-83-what-do-the-bible-s-20-mentions-of-gaza-tell-us https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/gaza-war-evangelical-leaders-cheer-end-world-1234884151/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] sepi@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I understand what I need to understand. My experiences with them IRL have led me to my current position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Spoken like a true bigot. Good luck with that 👍 A predictive model is only as accurate as it's underlying assumptions. Leftists are floundering on the Palestine issue because they don't actually want to understand the opposing side. They're just chasing the dopamine rush of feeling like they're right, always - kind of like religious fundamentalists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Delusional, seek help permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Your reading comprehension needs work permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago stop distorting the reality of the situation. you've had your head in the sand if you've never met christians who are accelerationists, who want the end times now. they're not an isolated one off. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/us-evangelical-christians-israel-hamas-war https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2023/11/03/world/evangelicals-israel-hamas-war/ https://www.gotquestions.org/end-times-Israel.html https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/truth-many-evangelical-christians-support-israel-rcna121481 https://www.reddit.com/r/exchristian/comments/17gm2v3/israelpalestine_and_the_end_times_from_someone/ https://allisrael.com/is-the-gaza-war-part-of-end-times-prophecy-what-about-psalm-83-what-do-the-bible-s-20-mentions-of-gaza-tell-us https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/gaza-war-evangelical-leaders-cheer-end-world-1234884151/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sepi@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I understand what I need to understand. My experiences with them IRL have led me to my current position. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Spoken like a true bigot. Good luck with that 👍 A predictive model is only as accurate as it's underlying assumptions. Leftists are floundering on the Palestine issue because they don't actually want to understand the opposing side. They're just chasing the dopamine rush of feeling like they're right, always - kind of like religious fundamentalists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Delusional, seek help permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Spoken like a true bigot. Good luck with that 👍 A predictive model is only as accurate as it's underlying assumptions. Leftists are floundering on the Palestine issue because they don't actually want to understand the opposing side. They're just chasing the dopamine rush of feeling like they're right, always - kind of like religious fundamentalists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Delusional, seek help permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago Your reading comprehension needs work permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago It's pretty well known that the American religious nutters want Israel to rebuild the temple of David so the apocalypse happens. This leads them to support Israel's actions in general OTOH Israel will never rebuild the temple, 'cause if they did they would lose the support of the American religious nutters when the apocalypse failed to occur (as apocalypses have so far) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nomylous@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago Have you ever met any Evangelical Christians? I was raised Baptist and the rebuilding of Temple Mount/the Third Temple (destroying the dome of the rock in the process) is religious doctrine. They believe it has to happen for the messiah to return. They eagerly await WWIII in the middle east as part of their end times prophecies. I've met dozens (easily) who'll get there in a conversation, but you have to talk to them as a believer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago It's "parroted" by people who have working brains because it's accurate permalink fedilink source parent