▲ 805 ▼ i thought it was a negotiation tactic (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 1 year ago by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 45 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Sheldan@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago (7 children) Who, in their right mind, thought other countries would pay them? permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Signtist@lemm.ee 115 points 1 year ago (1 child) The same people who were convinced Mexico would pay for the wall. At least until it became undeniable that we were paying for it, at which point they instead claimed that they always believed we'd be the ones to pay, and that it was a necessary sacrifice. The same thing they're starting to do for this. That's the thing - his supporters have no idea what's going on, but they don't want to lose face by admitting it, so they're constantly just pretending that whatever is happening is part of the plan, and make up whatever reasoning they have to in order to justify it. We're a country of naked emperors pretending we're wearing clothes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 29 points 1 year ago (2 children) Give it a few months and Mexico might actually consider paying for a wall permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExtraPartsLeft@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago He truly was playing 4D chess all along! /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago I'm in Canada and me and my friends are all about building a southern wall about now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (2 children) Americans. They aren't known for being the smartest population out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Conservative MAGA Americans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago There are a lot of americans who did not even vote. There are idiots like Jill Stein, Rashida Tlaib etc who enabled them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] essell@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago How smart were the opposition to them in recent times? permalink fedilink source parent [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arrow74@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) What is an advanced degree defined as in the context? If it's master's and up it's painting a different picture than if it was bachelor's and up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Wondering the same myself. I assume Bachelor's but we all know assuming makes an ASS of U and ME permalink fedilink source parent [–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Advanced degree is usually master's and up in most definitions I've seen. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago in their right mind First we'll have to discuss this bar you've put on them. I know a lot of people who believed it but I'm not sure I have a strong case to defend their mind. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone who listened to Trump and Vance explain them basically. For months they've been straight up lying to their voters that if they put a tariff on China, then China would have to pay to ship their products to the US. How they're going to bring in all this money from China and the rest of the countries that had been supposedly "screwing us" in trade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago And all those tarrifs are to even trade out. But also to allow us to eliminate the income tax! Just don't ask about how we're going to make up for all of the money taxes bring in, or any of it once trade evens out and we don't need the tariffs anymore. It all makes perfect sense, you see. /s permalink fedilink source parent [+] Xatolos@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago They're not thinking. They're feeling. It's a world of emotions. All of us do that sometimes. Unfortunately, some people do it when stakes are high like elections, rather than fairly harmless emotional choices like "I want the 1d12 sword instead of 2d6 because the 12 feels bigger" permalink fedilink source parent [–] ERROR_100_000_100@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago Does matter either way. You make China pay for the tariff, they just add the tariff to the sale of the product. The item is $100 and there is a $100 tariff? Well, now they selling it at $200. Doesn't matter who the bill goes to, the consumer always end up footing the bill. The only winner is the US government (whose money will quickly find its way into some rich people's pockets) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 115 points 1 year ago (1 child) The same people who were convinced Mexico would pay for the wall. At least until it became undeniable that we were paying for it, at which point they instead claimed that they always believed we'd be the ones to pay, and that it was a necessary sacrifice. The same thing they're starting to do for this. That's the thing - his supporters have no idea what's going on, but they don't want to lose face by admitting it, so they're constantly just pretending that whatever is happening is part of the plan, and make up whatever reasoning they have to in order to justify it. We're a country of naked emperors pretending we're wearing clothes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 29 points 1 year ago (2 children) Give it a few months and Mexico might actually consider paying for a wall permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExtraPartsLeft@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago He truly was playing 4D chess all along! /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago I'm in Canada and me and my friends are all about building a southern wall about now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 29 points 1 year ago (2 children) Give it a few months and Mexico might actually consider paying for a wall permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ExtraPartsLeft@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago He truly was playing 4D chess all along! /s permalink fedilink source parent [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago I'm in Canada and me and my friends are all about building a southern wall about now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExtraPartsLeft@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago He truly was playing 4D chess all along! /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago I'm in Canada and me and my friends are all about building a southern wall about now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (2 children) Americans. They aren't known for being the smartest population out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Conservative MAGA Americans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago There are a lot of americans who did not even vote. There are idiots like Jill Stein, Rashida Tlaib etc who enabled them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] essell@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago How smart were the opposition to them in recent times? permalink fedilink source parent [–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arrow74@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) What is an advanced degree defined as in the context? If it's master's and up it's painting a different picture than if it was bachelor's and up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Wondering the same myself. I assume Bachelor's but we all know assuming makes an ASS of U and ME permalink fedilink source parent [–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Advanced degree is usually master's and up in most definitions I've seen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Conservative MAGA Americans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago There are a lot of americans who did not even vote. There are idiots like Jill Stein, Rashida Tlaib etc who enabled them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] essell@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago How smart were the opposition to them in recent times? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago There are a lot of americans who did not even vote. There are idiots like Jill Stein, Rashida Tlaib etc who enabled them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] essell@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago How smart were the opposition to them in recent times? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arrow74@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) What is an advanced degree defined as in the context? If it's master's and up it's painting a different picture than if it was bachelor's and up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Wondering the same myself. I assume Bachelor's but we all know assuming makes an ASS of U and ME permalink fedilink source parent [–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Advanced degree is usually master's and up in most definitions I've seen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children) What is an advanced degree defined as in the context? If it's master's and up it's painting a different picture than if it was bachelor's and up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Wondering the same myself. I assume Bachelor's but we all know assuming makes an ASS of U and ME permalink fedilink source parent [–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Advanced degree is usually master's and up in most definitions I've seen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Wondering the same myself. I assume Bachelor's but we all know assuming makes an ASS of U and ME permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Advanced degree is usually master's and up in most definitions I've seen. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago in their right mind First we'll have to discuss this bar you've put on them. I know a lot of people who believed it but I'm not sure I have a strong case to defend their mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago (1 child) Anyone who listened to Trump and Vance explain them basically. For months they've been straight up lying to their voters that if they put a tariff on China, then China would have to pay to ship their products to the US. How they're going to bring in all this money from China and the rest of the countries that had been supposedly "screwing us" in trade. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago And all those tarrifs are to even trade out. But also to allow us to eliminate the income tax! Just don't ask about how we're going to make up for all of the money taxes bring in, or any of it once trade evens out and we don't need the tariffs anymore. It all makes perfect sense, you see. /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago And all those tarrifs are to even trade out. But also to allow us to eliminate the income tax! Just don't ask about how we're going to make up for all of the money taxes bring in, or any of it once trade evens out and we don't need the tariffs anymore. It all makes perfect sense, you see. /s permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago They're not thinking. They're feeling. It's a world of emotions. All of us do that sometimes. Unfortunately, some people do it when stakes are high like elections, rather than fairly harmless emotional choices like "I want the 1d12 sword instead of 2d6 because the 12 feels bigger" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ERROR_100_000_100@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago Does matter either way. You make China pay for the tariff, they just add the tariff to the sale of the product. The item is $100 and there is a $100 tariff? Well, now they selling it at $200. Doesn't matter who the bill goes to, the consumer always end up footing the bill. The only winner is the US government (whose money will quickly find its way into some rich people's pockets) permalink fedilink source parent