β² 1377 βΌ Fascists are always just following orders (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 year ago by Confidant6198@lemmy.ml to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world 149 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/28232681
[β] shrugs@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not to burst your bubble but Stanford Prison Experiment was a total hoax: https://www.nine.com.au/entertainment/viral/stanford-prison-experiment-faked-say-people-involved/4a1833c2-ff70-4813-8727-7458d4652b8e permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It confirms claims Zimbardo pushed participants towards the results he wanted, something he has disputed. That's actually what I referred to, although I indeed didn't know know about the other statements by participants. Only knew about someone in Stanford digging through the files and realizing Zimbardo fucked everything up by pushing towards a certain outcome. Mmhβ¦ I still stand with my statements about what we should do better though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm with you on that. Most people all to thankfully give up their responsibility and do what they are told. The less they see the outcome of their actions the better (drone Pilots for example). Anyway, i think the stanford prision experiment is a bad example for that though, because it also incorprates peer pressure and concludes that nobody will think twice doing harm to others, as long as they are told to do so by authority. Humanity isn't that bad I hope permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Then explain human history and literally everything else we know For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. It is only denial, optimistic bias, self delusion, and other mediating psychological effects that allow us to see ourselves as anything better "Everyone is an asshole, so it's okay for me to be an asshole too"?! You do you! I strongly believe most people don't enjoy seeing other people suffering. I'm no saint either but I try my best. I think that's a way better starting point than your take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. I thought we were talking about societal concepts? Those would literally change everything given it's about the shape of our very environment, it's okay if you don't want to engage in such a discussion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Sorry mate, english is not my first language. I just wrote a response anyway but lemmy bugged when i tried to post it. :( I think everyone can act like a monster if he thinks the other person deserves it. unfortunately all the negativity in the media and from influential people enforces this worldview. I try to abstain from and to not discuss shit like that. Life is too short to be angry about things i can't change. What i can do is act as good as i can in my personal life and that's about it. Have a nice day and don't let the negativity get the best of you permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) It confirms claims Zimbardo pushed participants towards the results he wanted, something he has disputed. That's actually what I referred to, although I indeed didn't know know about the other statements by participants. Only knew about someone in Stanford digging through the files and realizing Zimbardo fucked everything up by pushing towards a certain outcome. Mmhβ¦ I still stand with my statements about what we should do better though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm with you on that. Most people all to thankfully give up their responsibility and do what they are told. The less they see the outcome of their actions the better (drone Pilots for example). Anyway, i think the stanford prision experiment is a bad example for that though, because it also incorprates peer pressure and concludes that nobody will think twice doing harm to others, as long as they are told to do so by authority. Humanity isn't that bad I hope permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Then explain human history and literally everything else we know For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. It is only denial, optimistic bias, self delusion, and other mediating psychological effects that allow us to see ourselves as anything better "Everyone is an asshole, so it's okay for me to be an asshole too"?! You do you! I strongly believe most people don't enjoy seeing other people suffering. I'm no saint either but I try my best. I think that's a way better starting point than your take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. I thought we were talking about societal concepts? Those would literally change everything given it's about the shape of our very environment, it's okay if you don't want to engage in such a discussion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Sorry mate, english is not my first language. I just wrote a response anyway but lemmy bugged when i tried to post it. :( I think everyone can act like a monster if he thinks the other person deserves it. unfortunately all the negativity in the media and from influential people enforces this worldview. I try to abstain from and to not discuss shit like that. Life is too short to be angry about things i can't change. What i can do is act as good as i can in my personal life and that's about it. Have a nice day and don't let the negativity get the best of you permalink fedilink source parent
[β] shrugs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm with you on that. Most people all to thankfully give up their responsibility and do what they are told. The less they see the outcome of their actions the better (drone Pilots for example). Anyway, i think the stanford prision experiment is a bad example for that though, because it also incorprates peer pressure and concludes that nobody will think twice doing harm to others, as long as they are told to do so by authority. Humanity isn't that bad I hope permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Then explain human history and literally everything else we know For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. It is only denial, optimistic bias, self delusion, and other mediating psychological effects that allow us to see ourselves as anything better "Everyone is an asshole, so it's okay for me to be an asshole too"?! You do you! I strongly believe most people don't enjoy seeing other people suffering. I'm no saint either but I try my best. I think that's a way better starting point than your take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. I thought we were talking about societal concepts? Those would literally change everything given it's about the shape of our very environment, it's okay if you don't want to engage in such a discussion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Sorry mate, english is not my first language. I just wrote a response anyway but lemmy bugged when i tried to post it. :( I think everyone can act like a monster if he thinks the other person deserves it. unfortunately all the negativity in the media and from influential people enforces this worldview. I try to abstain from and to not discuss shit like that. Life is too short to be angry about things i can't change. What i can do is act as good as i can in my personal life and that's about it. Have a nice day and don't let the negativity get the best of you permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Then explain human history and literally everything else we know For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. It is only denial, optimistic bias, self delusion, and other mediating psychological effects that allow us to see ourselves as anything better "Everyone is an asshole, so it's okay for me to be an asshole too"?! You do you! I strongly believe most people don't enjoy seeing other people suffering. I'm no saint either but I try my best. I think that's a way better starting point than your take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. I thought we were talking about societal concepts? Those would literally change everything given it's about the shape of our very environment, it's okay if you don't want to engage in such a discussion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Sorry mate, english is not my first language. I just wrote a response anyway but lemmy bugged when i tried to post it. :( I think everyone can act like a monster if he thinks the other person deserves it. unfortunately all the negativity in the media and from influential people enforces this worldview. I try to abstain from and to not discuss shit like that. Life is too short to be angry about things i can't change. What i can do is act as good as i can in my personal life and that's about it. Have a nice day and don't let the negativity get the best of you permalink fedilink source parent
[β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Then explain human history and literally everything else we know For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. It is only denial, optimistic bias, self delusion, and other mediating psychological effects that allow us to see ourselves as anything better "Everyone is an asshole, so it's okay for me to be an asshole too"?! You do you! I strongly believe most people don't enjoy seeing other people suffering. I'm no saint either but I try my best. I think that's a way better starting point than your take. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. I thought we were talking about societal concepts? Those would literally change everything given it's about the shape of our very environment, it's okay if you don't want to engage in such a discussion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Sorry mate, english is not my first language. I just wrote a response anyway but lemmy bugged when i tried to post it. :( I think everyone can act like a monster if he thinks the other person deserves it. unfortunately all the negativity in the media and from influential people enforces this worldview. I try to abstain from and to not discuss shit like that. Life is too short to be angry about things i can't change. What i can do is act as good as i can in my personal life and that's about it. Have a nice day and don't let the negativity get the best of you permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) For what? This would change nothing. The only thing you can change are your own actions at this very moment. I thought we were talking about societal concepts? Those would literally change everything given it's about the shape of our very environment, it's okay if you don't want to engage in such a discussion though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Sorry mate, english is not my first language. I just wrote a response anyway but lemmy bugged when i tried to post it. :( I think everyone can act like a monster if he thinks the other person deserves it. unfortunately all the negativity in the media and from influential people enforces this worldview. I try to abstain from and to not discuss shit like that. Life is too short to be angry about things i can't change. What i can do is act as good as i can in my personal life and that's about it. Have a nice day and don't let the negativity get the best of you permalink fedilink source parent
[β] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Sorry mate, english is not my first language. I just wrote a response anyway but lemmy bugged when i tried to post it. :( I think everyone can act like a monster if he thinks the other person deserves it. unfortunately all the negativity in the media and from influential people enforces this worldview. I try to abstain from and to not discuss shit like that. Life is too short to be angry about things i can't change. What i can do is act as good as i can in my personal life and that's about it. Have a nice day and don't let the negativity get the best of you permalink fedilink source parent
