▲ 1216 ▼ still they don't get moderated (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 1 year ago by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world 111 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 53 points 1 year ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] veeloth@lemm.ee -31 points 1 year ago (7 children) as leftist, it is dumb to assume everyone that says "don't call everyone you disagree with nazis" nazis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) As someone that has spent hundreds of hours studying history, the parallels between DJT and Hitler are pretty apparent. Persecution of an outgroup (Jews and Mexicans) Failed political coup (Beer hall putsch and Jan 6th) Both used populism and economic crises to push their agenda Demonization of mainstream media and consolidation of their own media networks (Radio stations and Truth Social / Twitter) Raging narcissism and ego The main difference is that Germany was in a much worse economic situation than America is now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago They're trying really hard to fix that last one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, but who is "calling everyone (they) disagree with nazis"? Look at the comment. The initial post is simply "Fuck Nazis." It's not calling anyone anything. That's why it works as bait. It's not calling out any individuals in particular, so why would someone get offended by it? Simplest reason would be that they felt personally called out, because deep down some part of them identifies with that word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veeloth@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I'm not talking about that scenario in particular, it's pretty obvious there that the guy felt called out. However the other guy said an incorrect statement and I just thought it was dumb, because not all cases are like that permalink fedilink source parent [–] DNS@discuss.online 16 points 1 year ago It's moving the goalposts. Maybe they aren't a nazi, but a sympathizer to fascist ideals. If you're at a table with 12 other nazi's and you claim you're not, well, that makes it a wee difficult in seeing otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Creator of Godwin’s Law: You can totally call these guys Nazis I've been on the internet long enough that calling someone a "Nazi" went from being the highest insult to a historically accurate descriptor of a self identified group. Maybe shutting down Stormfront was a mistake because all the users went to twitter and facebook where their views became normalized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It was a pretty overused insult for a while. Something we have to deal with now that the actual nazis are pushing themselves forward. permalink fedilink source parent [–] constnt@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago Historically, do you know what they called Germans who voted for Hitler because of the economy? People that didn't hold any hate for trans people, Jews, and other minorities? Nazis. They called them fucking Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) Found one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veeloth@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago based on? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Maybe they shouldn't be throwing out sieg heils and getting swastika tattoos if they don't want to be called Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] veeloth@lemm.ee -31 points 1 year ago (7 children) as leftist, it is dumb to assume everyone that says "don't call everyone you disagree with nazis" nazis permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) As someone that has spent hundreds of hours studying history, the parallels between DJT and Hitler are pretty apparent. Persecution of an outgroup (Jews and Mexicans) Failed political coup (Beer hall putsch and Jan 6th) Both used populism and economic crises to push their agenda Demonization of mainstream media and consolidation of their own media networks (Radio stations and Truth Social / Twitter) Raging narcissism and ego The main difference is that Germany was in a much worse economic situation than America is now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago They're trying really hard to fix that last one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, but who is "calling everyone (they) disagree with nazis"? Look at the comment. The initial post is simply "Fuck Nazis." It's not calling anyone anything. That's why it works as bait. It's not calling out any individuals in particular, so why would someone get offended by it? Simplest reason would be that they felt personally called out, because deep down some part of them identifies with that word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veeloth@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I'm not talking about that scenario in particular, it's pretty obvious there that the guy felt called out. However the other guy said an incorrect statement and I just thought it was dumb, because not all cases are like that permalink fedilink source parent [–] DNS@discuss.online 16 points 1 year ago It's moving the goalposts. Maybe they aren't a nazi, but a sympathizer to fascist ideals. If you're at a table with 12 other nazi's and you claim you're not, well, that makes it a wee difficult in seeing otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Creator of Godwin’s Law: You can totally call these guys Nazis I've been on the internet long enough that calling someone a "Nazi" went from being the highest insult to a historically accurate descriptor of a self identified group. Maybe shutting down Stormfront was a mistake because all the users went to twitter and facebook where their views became normalized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It was a pretty overused insult for a while. Something we have to deal with now that the actual nazis are pushing themselves forward. permalink fedilink source parent [–] constnt@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago Historically, do you know what they called Germans who voted for Hitler because of the economy? People that didn't hold any hate for trans people, Jews, and other minorities? Nazis. They called them fucking Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) Found one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veeloth@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago based on? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Maybe they shouldn't be throwing out sieg heils and getting swastika tattoos if they don't want to be called Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) As someone that has spent hundreds of hours studying history, the parallels between DJT and Hitler are pretty apparent. Persecution of an outgroup (Jews and Mexicans) Failed political coup (Beer hall putsch and Jan 6th) Both used populism and economic crises to push their agenda Demonization of mainstream media and consolidation of their own media networks (Radio stations and Truth Social / Twitter) Raging narcissism and ego The main difference is that Germany was in a much worse economic situation than America is now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago They're trying really hard to fix that last one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago They're trying really hard to fix that last one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 child) Okay, but who is "calling everyone (they) disagree with nazis"? Look at the comment. The initial post is simply "Fuck Nazis." It's not calling anyone anything. That's why it works as bait. It's not calling out any individuals in particular, so why would someone get offended by it? Simplest reason would be that they felt personally called out, because deep down some part of them identifies with that word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veeloth@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I'm not talking about that scenario in particular, it's pretty obvious there that the guy felt called out. However the other guy said an incorrect statement and I just thought it was dumb, because not all cases are like that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veeloth@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago I'm not talking about that scenario in particular, it's pretty obvious there that the guy felt called out. However the other guy said an incorrect statement and I just thought it was dumb, because not all cases are like that permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DNS@discuss.online 16 points 1 year ago It's moving the goalposts. Maybe they aren't a nazi, but a sympathizer to fascist ideals. If you're at a table with 12 other nazi's and you claim you're not, well, that makes it a wee difficult in seeing otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Creator of Godwin’s Law: You can totally call these guys Nazis I've been on the internet long enough that calling someone a "Nazi" went from being the highest insult to a historically accurate descriptor of a self identified group. Maybe shutting down Stormfront was a mistake because all the users went to twitter and facebook where their views became normalized. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It was a pretty overused insult for a while. Something we have to deal with now that the actual nazis are pushing themselves forward. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago It was a pretty overused insult for a while. Something we have to deal with now that the actual nazis are pushing themselves forward. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] constnt@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago Historically, do you know what they called Germans who voted for Hitler because of the economy? People that didn't hold any hate for trans people, Jews, and other minorities? Nazis. They called them fucking Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 child) Found one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veeloth@lemm.ee 1 point 1 year ago based on? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago Maybe they shouldn't be throwing out sieg heils and getting swastika tattoos if they don't want to be called Nazis. permalink fedilink source parent