▲ 1718 ▼ If you're still on Reddit... (slrpnk.net) submitted 1 year ago by Sibshops@lemm.ee to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 178 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) So "how" is there no regulation solution – my initial statement in question permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sure regulate it then, effectively, and cut out any international trade which allows for the procurement of goods through a non-regulated system. Find a common agreement of what regulation is and find a way to ensure no one has an incentive to break that regulation. Find a way to ensure that a capitalist cannot accrue such wealth as to influence politics (or skirt whatever law you want against it). The only people I've heard who want NO regulation are AnCaps and yeah lol no - (and also they still want property rights ig). People just want a better system than what we have now. Which is laissez-faire capitalism. Beyond that there's the political philosophical aspect that "capitalism" can and does effectively mean rule by the wealthiest. Lot's of people would be happy with a market system in a socialist society. Lots of people want Anarchism. Lots of people want Communism(the good or bad kind depending on who you ask). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arakhis_@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago* Id just love to see more corporations being like Mondragon(spanish) in the top ranks (i.e. stock corpos) but I would not want governments specifically to gain ownership forcefully. So I'd call it regulated capitalism - as you said, just not paleo libertarian laissez-faire as we clearly see how that doesnt work once all markets are established (and even the competition phase was, as we all should know, pretty questionable historically cough imperialism cough) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Sure regulate it then, effectively, and cut out any international trade which allows for the procurement of goods through a non-regulated system. Find a common agreement of what regulation is and find a way to ensure no one has an incentive to break that regulation. Find a way to ensure that a capitalist cannot accrue such wealth as to influence politics (or skirt whatever law you want against it). The only people I've heard who want NO regulation are AnCaps and yeah lol no - (and also they still want property rights ig). People just want a better system than what we have now. Which is laissez-faire capitalism. Beyond that there's the political philosophical aspect that "capitalism" can and does effectively mean rule by the wealthiest. Lot's of people would be happy with a market system in a socialist society. Lots of people want Anarchism. Lots of people want Communism(the good or bad kind depending on who you ask). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arakhis_@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago* Id just love to see more corporations being like Mondragon(spanish) in the top ranks (i.e. stock corpos) but I would not want governments specifically to gain ownership forcefully. So I'd call it regulated capitalism - as you said, just not paleo libertarian laissez-faire as we clearly see how that doesnt work once all markets are established (and even the competition phase was, as we all should know, pretty questionable historically cough imperialism cough) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago* Id just love to see more corporations being like Mondragon(spanish) in the top ranks (i.e. stock corpos) but I would not want governments specifically to gain ownership forcefully. So I'd call it regulated capitalism - as you said, just not paleo libertarian laissez-faire as we clearly see how that doesnt work once all markets are established (and even the competition phase was, as we all should know, pretty questionable historically cough imperialism cough) permalink fedilink source parent