▲ 679 ▼ CIA be like (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 62 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Dressedlikeapenguin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Behind the Bastards podcast has taught me that we will never fix the culture, will only sometimes remove individuals, and it will always be shitty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hey now, just because it can't be fixed doesn't mean it can't be better. The CIA is at a special level of dogshit. They can be less evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) In theory, yes. In practice I can't imagine the political will exists to actually take down government-sanctioned criminal enterprises like the CIA. I think it would take something like a revolution to actually clean house at that level, and even that's a long shot because revolutions make things worse more often than not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago I think reforming the CIA from the ground up isn't impossible, though it'd require a great deal of political will. Going to punish the leaders though, that's probably a lost cause. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cooljacob204@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are they not already less evil? All the stuff people criticize it about took place mostly 50+ years ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Intelligence_Committee_report_on_CIA_torture No. It's really not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Ahhh yes, I had forgotten about that. Pretty evil shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Hey now, just because it can't be fixed doesn't mean it can't be better. The CIA is at a special level of dogshit. They can be less evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) In theory, yes. In practice I can't imagine the political will exists to actually take down government-sanctioned criminal enterprises like the CIA. I think it would take something like a revolution to actually clean house at that level, and even that's a long shot because revolutions make things worse more often than not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago I think reforming the CIA from the ground up isn't impossible, though it'd require a great deal of political will. Going to punish the leaders though, that's probably a lost cause. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cooljacob204@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are they not already less evil? All the stuff people criticize it about took place mostly 50+ years ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Intelligence_Committee_report_on_CIA_torture No. It's really not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Ahhh yes, I had forgotten about that. Pretty evil shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) In theory, yes. In practice I can't imagine the political will exists to actually take down government-sanctioned criminal enterprises like the CIA. I think it would take something like a revolution to actually clean house at that level, and even that's a long shot because revolutions make things worse more often than not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago I think reforming the CIA from the ground up isn't impossible, though it'd require a great deal of political will. Going to punish the leaders though, that's probably a lost cause. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) In theory, yes. In practice I can't imagine the political will exists to actually take down government-sanctioned criminal enterprises like the CIA. I think it would take something like a revolution to actually clean house at that level, and even that's a long shot because revolutions make things worse more often than not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago I think reforming the CIA from the ground up isn't impossible, though it'd require a great deal of political will. Going to punish the leaders though, that's probably a lost cause. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago I think reforming the CIA from the ground up isn't impossible, though it'd require a great deal of political will. Going to punish the leaders though, that's probably a lost cause. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cooljacob204@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are they not already less evil? All the stuff people criticize it about took place mostly 50+ years ago. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Intelligence_Committee_report_on_CIA_torture No. It's really not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Ahhh yes, I had forgotten about that. Pretty evil shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Intelligence_Committee_report_on_CIA_torture No. It's really not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Ahhh yes, I had forgotten about that. Pretty evil shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Ahhh yes, I had forgotten about that. Pretty evil shit. permalink fedilink source parent